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Article #2936Re: and people wonder why im angry
From: Christopher Mountford
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 04:07
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 04:07
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cas@muffin.pronet.com (Craig Sanders) writes: >cjmount@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Christopher Mountford) writes: >[blah blah blah blah blah - more crap deleted ] >> Of course. And that's a problem. It's just plain old ordinary everyday >> ignorance. It's not a conspiracy. It's not about demonising men. It's >> about opening minds. It's a difficult thing to accomplish en masse. >Well you may as well just fucking give up if that's what you're attempting. >Enlightenment en masse is a contradiction in terms. Not only are the >majority of the human race just plain dumb (how else can this world be >explained?), but opening minds just can not be achieved on a mass scale >- you may be able to convince one or two in one-on-one conversation, >you can even shock a dozen or two into wakefulness with appropriately >outrageous actions and statements, but you just can't wake up sheep with >the same sort of mass-marketing techniques used to induce and maintain >their sleepy stupor. I agree that I would be a naive idealist, as opposed to a rational idealist to think that I have or could have achieved very much in the way of opening minds. Indeed I never expected to make much headway. But every little bit does contribute to the general raising of awareness. The world is obviously fucked. Many people have an innate ability to see this, but also remember that there are plenty of things which have changed. Slowly over centuries, just beyond the timescales of human thought. We see this in history and literature and philosophy. I think the very thinnest edge of the wedge of an elightenment, maybe not of "the" masses, but of the significant proportion of people who *will* think, is who I am aiming at. Perhaps I don't present as a revolutionary, I am utterly bored of the possiblity anyway, I just don't want to shut up because of the pathetic idea that there is no use in making a point. Things do change, and *people* do it. There are always thinkers amogst the herd, those who will reach for the light, come out of the cave. To see things more purely than they would reasonably have been expected to given their circumstances. I am someone who thinks of themself as convincable of truth. I think it's "out there". And so are plenty who listen to honest attempts to raise the human race out of the bullshit, bit by bit. Perhaps that's the antithesis of cyberpunk, but I think cp can be detatched from particular human reactions to a postmodern cultural ghosting. >-- >cas@muffin.apana.org.au > "Organise a strike in your school or workplace on the grounds that it > does not satisfy your need for indolence & spiritual beauty." > -- Hakim Bey, The Temporary Autonomous Zone Never Underestimate the Human Response. Engine.
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