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Christopher Mountford (cjmount@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU) wrote:
>bast@access3.digex.net (Red-Jaguar) writes:
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>>Structural patriarchal control on the net?
>>Sounds far fetched to me.

>Of *course* it does. It requires a vigilant and critical eye to ascend
>through layers of fog. But anyone can do it.

Do you actually have any evidence for these claims or can it only
be seen by those gifted with your special insight?

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>>Trying to organize all those folk from all those diverse points of view 
>>in some twisted plot to discourage women from the net is.... well...
>>can we sell the story to the National Enquirer?

>See what I mean about the denigration to the conspiracy theory level?
>It's a meme which helps you to avoid the horrifying truth. 

Being?

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>>Pray tell what is the 'feminie' type of personal opinion?
>>A tender rose that wilts under criticism? Withers under the heat of debate?
>>Sterotyping again?

>Not me buddy. You said it. Rosie's perspective is FEMININE because Rosie
>is a woman. Thats it. Femininity is up to women to define, and fight over.
>I can't tell a woman what femininity is really. But it's a pretty safe 
>bet that women are feminine. They can perhaps also reveal a masculine 
>nature but since I can't tie femininity down I can't tell which is which.
                                           1. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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>I believe there is a feminine. Women are different and thank gods.
>But I don't think it is obscure, it is OBSCURED by the inequitable
>distribution of jobs, resources, and net access to women worldwide.
>One thing is for sure, I nor any one person can say what THE 
>feminine really is. Except that women would be and could be 
>exploring it more if they didn't have to play boys games on the
>net. Some of them don't realise they do it as some men do not.

Well if you can't tell the difference between femininity and
masculinity [refer 1. avove] how can you tell women are "playing boys
[sic] games"? For all you know they could be girls' games.
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>>>But the tragedy will be the loss of the recognition that women is other.

>>Other what? Other species? 

>No.... ummm is this a serious question? Of course it is OTHER SEX.
>But there is no equal mirror. Women are expressed as *the* *other*
>more than men are. This has a perspectival effect, and is the effect
>of perspectival bias. It's a self-stroking cycle.

That sounds like an apt metaphor for your argumentation!

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