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Re: and people wonder why im angry

#2980
From: Tim Benham
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 10:17
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Christopher Mountford (cjmount@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU) wrote:
>hiscdcj@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Dwayne Jones-Evans) writes:

>>Christopher Mountford (cjmount@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU) wrote:

>>: There are some feminists which are very familiar with your view, 
>>: which is very common. I think that the very problem which Rosie
>>: was trying to address was the fact that 'expressing an opinion'
>>: specifically one which challenges the underlying structures of
>>: thought, patriarchal structures, will 'make you look like a 
>>: whining petulant nobody'. That's the very problem. She knows it 
>>: and doesn't need you to point it out. Not only that but you have
>>: failed to see that the point is to be able to challenge authority. 

>>She was most definately NOT trying to express an opinion "which
>>challenges the underlying structures of thought, patriarchal structures"

>>She was posting an AD about a RADIO SHOW she is doing on the ABC on arve
>>culture, and got upset when the ravers on the ausrave mailing list asked
>>her
>>a: why publicity was a good thing
>>b: why publicity on Radio National, for god's sake, was a good thing,
>>and
>>c: why she was qualified to speak on our behalf.

>No that was on the mailing list. I never saw that. It's not relevant
>to my point. Which was as above stated.

As stated your point was totally irrelevant. She was not "expressing
an opinion which challenges the underlying structures of thought,
patriarchal structures" nor was she "challenging authority". In the
case in question it is rosiex who is the "authority" (with all due
respect to Dwayne); she is the one with the nationally broadcast radio
show, not Dwayne. She looks like a "whining petulant nobody" not for any
of the reasons you refer to, but because responded to critical email
by posting it together with a totally pathetic demand that Dwayne be
flamed and those who disagree with her remain silent.

...

>Oh but it has become much more.... :) <---- first smilie in this thread.

If you're referring to your contribution I would substitute "less".

Note appropriate follow-ups.
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Tim J.Benham                                       bentj93@cs.adfa.oz.au
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From: tim@duh.cs.adfa.oz.au (Tim Benham)
Subject: Re: and people wonder why im angry
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