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Richard Taylor (lionhart@primenet.com) wrote:
: For all concerned in the debate about az.sf.fandom - 

: Take all comments coming from Woody with a grain of salt the size of a 
: small house. Information that I have received this morning from 3 
: different sources indicate that his actions and verbal assault have 
: NOTHING to do with the validity or usefullness of this group, but rather 
: a personal grudge he has decided to hold against me.  Woody has already 
: made himself a reputation in USENET for being an agitator and a 
: troublemaker, and his actions on a local level are giving many, many 
: people cause for concern. And this time, people are telling the back story
: because they think he's gone too far... 

People should always check their sources. My opinion that the proposed
group is unnecessary has nothing to do with you in any way. I want to see
the traffic that justifies a new newsgroup. A little whistle blowing if I
may: those same people who are giving you "the back story" are the same
ones who have been mocking you in our private mail list. You need to
figure out who your real friends are. It's going to be a mighty short
list. Most folks just tolerate you because you pay your dues to a club.
That's not friendship in my book.

: ... and now, a personal note ...  

: Woody, in all the problems you have had on the net I've been one of the 
: few locals that had any kind words for you, even defended you to some 
: extent (and there are people that will confirm that). Now you pull a 
: bone-headed stunt like this and try to mess up something
: that will benefit a lot of people. I'm really sorry to see that you really
: are the narrow-minded, back-stabbing person that so many people in this
: town think you are.. I really thought I had seen you in a better light
: than that.. just goes to show how wrong I can be... 

I have not had any "problems" on the net. I have just said things that a
few folks don't like but that's the extent of that.

I still do not believe that the newsgroup will benefit anyone. I would
like to be proven wrong on this but with Arizona fan apathy the way it is
I fear that I am right. As for the back-stabbing issue all I can say is
yes, I have said unkind things about you when you were not around. Yes, so
has almost anyone I have contact with from UFP and TARDIS (but oh will
they deny it). If you have any examples of my back-stabbing other than my
comments about you I don't mind having them aired in a public forum. I
have my faults, but I can surely face them. I was man enough to make my
comments and I am man enough to deal with the aftermath.

: Not that I (or anyone else) expect you to give a damn about it...

That's ok, I give a little damn because it's time someone spoke publicly
what folks have been saying privately for a long time. I just decided the
time was now. There is so much womanly gossip going on and it just hit a
raw nerve finally. The folks who have the biggest problem with what I say
are the cowards who do not want to rock the boat under any circumstances
for fear they may fall out. It's time to start getting some spines and I
hope that happens.



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