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On Dec 31 2012, 4:53 pm, Mark Roberts <markrobt+use...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Aside from that, did KGO miss a chance for a (weak) FM signal?
>

If this were Facebook, I'd have to Like that.

What *is* the status of an FM station for KGO?  There used to be
a KGO-FM.

Happy New Year from L.A!

Jim

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<f5e07b95-79cc-476e-8f73-45e2852256dc@pp8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
 Jim Collier <jimcolli2973@gmail.com> wrote:

> What *is* the status of an FM station for KGO?  There used to be
> a KGO-FM.

Yes, there was at 103.7. That facility has passed through several hands 
since ABC sold it decades ago. The fact is that it rarely carried talk 
programming. Back then, FM was a toy to most broadcasters. Clear Channel 
owns it now, and since acquiring it has stripped away its legendary soft 
jazz format and replaced it with generic oldies. Typical Clear Channel, 
but I doubt they'll be parting with it soon.

Back before Cumulus raided KGO, it might have made sense to have 
acquired an FM facility, even at high cost. But KGO's claim to 
"compelling content" has vanished with the advent of second-rate hosts, 
screwball programming, and repetitive, poorly-done news. There is no 
point now since there is no compelling reason to listen to it at all. On 
FM, Cumulus' studio phone problems would drive you nuts.

Bottom line and short answer: don't look for it anytime soon unless 
Cumulus acquires one as the result of another take over and destruction 
of a legacy operation. But then, all you would have is Cumulus' version 
of KGO, which I cannot imagine holds a lot of interest for anyone.

-- 
John Higdon
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On 12/31/2012 4:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> The FCC FM Query does not show any 101.7 MHz signal that makes sense.
> However, I was able to find a document with the call letters K269FB, licensed
> at the time to Daly City. Those call letters do bring up a result in the FCC
> query, for a translator now licensed to Sausalito, with 25 watts.
> Apparently it was applied for earlier in the year, including the relocation
> from Daly City. What is a little puzzling is that there was a license to cover
> operations in May, but I've detected no sign of the thing until today.

That translator is on Mt. Beacon, but with a fairly weird directional 
antenna.  It's going to be limited to 10 watts ERP throughout most of 
its coverage area.  Still, you can probably see it from the Oakland 
hills, so a little signal goes a long way.

I've found many translators and at least one full-power station that are 
licensed but off the air without notification to the FCC.  Theoretically 
they're supposed to be posted here:

http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/silent-am-and-fm-broadcast-station-lists

I would not be surprised if IHR filed the license to cover well in 
advance of actually activating the transmitter in order to keep from 
losing the license.

Dave B.

"Mark Roberts" <markrobt+usenet@gmail.com> wrote

>
> Aside from that, did KGO miss a chance for a (weak) FM signal?

KGO's owner could have bought 104.9, which is now one of the KDFC stations. 
I'm sure they could have bought others as well, but they apparently have no 
interest in buying any FMs here.

On 1/1/13 12:33 PM, David Kaye wrote:
> "Mark Roberts" <markrobt+usenet@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>
>> Aside from that, did KGO miss a chance for a (weak) FM signal?
>
> KGO's owner could have bought 104.9, which is now one of the KDFC stations.
> I'm sure they could have bought others as well, but they apparently have no
> interest in buying any FMs here.
>
>
>
They already own three (KFOG/KFFG and KSAN). They're not exactly setting 
the world on fire - tied for #14 in December's book.) Why buy another 
facility until they figure out how to program the ones they already have?

Neil <weiserguy@sonic.net> had written:
| > "Mark Roberts" <markrobt+usenet@gmail.com> wrote
| >
| >>
| >> Aside from that, did KGO miss a chance for a (weak) FM signal?
| >
| > KGO's owner could have bought 104.9, which is now one of the KDFC stations.
| > I'm sure they could have bought others as well, but they apparently have no
| > interest in buying any FMs here.
| >
|  They already own three (KFOG/KFFG and KSAN). They're not exactly setting 
|  the world on fire - tied for #14 in December's book.) Why buy another 
|  facility until they figure out how to program the ones they already have?
| 
Reportedly (don't remember now where I saw the report), Cumulus was
one of the bidders for KBLX, but Entercom got it instead -- and
finally installed RDS!

Problem is, no FM station is going to have the kind of coverage
that a big AM is going to have in the Bay Area, due to the terrain.
Even so, it just postpones the decline of AM listening around here,
since FM is where the listeners are. Cumulus comes up short in that
regard, with only two FM signals, though it could easily end the
104.5/97.7 simulcast if it wanted. Maybe for the next national
brand it tries to launch.

What I wonder about KFOG is whether the station's demographic
profile has shifted. Clearly they're trying to go for a younger
audience now, sort of a Live 105 Lite. This, of course, has given
space to KUFX/KUZX to start recognizing that the 1990s actually
happened and had some music in there. 


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"Neil" <weiserguy@sonic.net> wrote

> They already own three (KFOG/KFFG and KSAN). They're not exactly setting 
> the world on fire - tied for #14 in December's book.) Why buy another 
> facility until they figure out how to program the ones they already have?

They're apparently happy with KFOG and KSAN and feel no need to ditch those 
formats to simulcast KGO, and as I said, had they wanted to simulcast KGO 
there was an FM available they could have bought.

As to Ronn Owens, it seems that everybody but yours truly was speculating 
that he would be gone from KGO. I didn't suggest such a thing because I 
figured that they needed at least one horse in the stable, and Ronn had a 
proven track record of beating Rush Limbaugh.