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Article #245Re: "Bring-It-On!" QUESTION: "...the dust of humiliation and disgrace?" AnTiMaTtEr!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
From: Auntie_Al
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:42
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:42
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Antediluvian Patriarch wrote: > > "Winston Smith, American Patriot" wrote: > > > > Bush Persona Non Grata > > 11/17/2003 12:43 > > 60% of Britons consider Bush threat to world peace > <snip> > > John ASHTEAD > > LONDON UNITED KINGDOM > > http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/365/11283_bushblair.html > > <> It is the posession of mere gherkins that is the source of their > <> humiliation. > > http://web.bham.ac.uk/s.m.stocks.cen/Gherkins/Woman.jpg > Pickled Gherkins > > Considered by many to be absolutely inedible, > gherkins represent a major dietary constituent > to many central or eastern European countries. > If you ever go to the Czech republic and order > "meat and two veg", what you will be served with > is a slice of cow and two pickled gherkins. > http://web.bham.ac.uk/s.m.stocks.cen/Gherkins/Woman.jpg > You will also notice how variable the quality of > gherkins is, and that some are, in fact, quite > sexy like the one in the above picture. > > Factors affecting the quality of gherkins are: > Crunchiness, Sourness, Sweetness, and Bitterness. > Top quality gherkins are all of the first three > and not at all bitter or soggy. > http://web.bham.ac.uk/s.m.stocks.cen/Gherkins/GherkinNav.htm > > > > QUESTION: "...the dust of humiliation and disgrace." ? > > > > > > Now that the ongoing war in Iraq is officially regarded > > > as a "Bring It On" front-line attack against terrorism, > > > doesn't this send a confusing message to the innocent, > > > law abiding, and peace-loving average citizen of Iraq, > > > that our, 'coalition of the willing' forces, having > > > once been set on "liberating" the people of Iraq from > > > daily fear and oppression, are now intentionally > > > transforming their embattled country into a magnet for > > > all sorts of violent extremist elements and terrorists? > > > How is the value of 'quality of life' measured and rated > > > according to this evolving, geopolitical "new world > > > order" standard?! [How Do *YOU* Feel?] > > "In January 2003, the U.S. Army and Defense > Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) > selected United Defense (UDI) to team with General > Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) and the Lead > Systems Integrator (Boeing/SAIC) in the > design of the ground vehicles portion of > Future Combat Systems (FCS), a critical > component of the Army's planned force > transformation." > http://www.uniteddefense.com/index.htm > > QUESTION: Who owns 'United Defense (UDI)'? > ANSWER: "... The Carlyle Group purchased > a majority stake..." > > The Carlyle Group: > http://www.thecarlylegroup.com/eng/index.html > > Bechtel > http://www.bechtel.com/ > > Bechtel's "Iraq Infrastructure Reconstruction Program" > http://www.bechtel.com/iraq.html > > Halliburton > http://www.halliburton.com/index.jsp > > Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR), a subsidiary of Halliburton > http://www.halliburton.com/news/archive/2000/kbrnws_050800.jsp > > "Those who do not understand the new tactics of > the opposition in Iraq should ask John Poindexter > and Oliver North about the tactics they used to > bring Nicaragua to its knees in the 1980's. > The Us-backed Contras sabotaged every effort > the Sandinistas made to rebuild the Nicaraguan > infrastructure. Dick Cheney was around then, > too. They even had a nice name for it: > 'Low intensity conflict.'" --Editors Note: > http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/081903D.shtml > > Tao Te Ching > http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/gthursby/taoism/ttcmerel.htm > > http://www.conspiracydigest.com/carlyle_group.html > "... The Chairman Emeritus of Carlyle Group is > Frank C. Carlucci, whose claim to fame was Deputy > Secretary of Defense (1981-1982) and National > Security Adviser (1987-1989). After his government > stint, he headed the Sears/ Coldwell Banker scam. > > "The current chairman of Carlyle Group is Lou Gerstner, > the former Chairman of IBM. > > "Sir James Baker III, Chief of Staff (1981 -'85), and > Secretary of Treasury (1985-'89) under Reagan; and > Secretary of State (1989 - 1993) under > George H. W. Bush Sr., is a 'Senior Advisor.' > > "Sir George Herbert Walker Bush, Director of CIA > (1976-'77) under Ford; Vice-President (1981-'89) > under Reagan; and President (1989 - '93), acts as > a broker and also senior advisor. > > "Other name brand politicos connected to Carlyle > include, former British prime minister John Major > (Chairman of Carlyle Europe), Dick Darman, the > former Reagan-Bush director of the Office of > Management and Budget, and Arthur Levitt, former > chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission > and Carlyle Senior Advisor. ..." > http://www.conspiracydigest.com/carlyle_group.html New ambassador to Saudi Arabia is another Bush/Carlyle Group crony. http://www.truthout.org/docs_01/0662.Bush.Saudi.htm By Jonathan Ashley, Eyes On American Dallas attorney Robert Jordan was confirmed Wednesday [2001] by the United States Senate to serve as ambassador to Saudi Arabia. Jordan has no diplomatic experience. However, his connections leave no doubt as to why he was named to the post. He defended George W. Bush in a probe of insider trading allegations in 1990. The allegations involved the sale by Bush of 60% of his Harken Energy Corp. stocks two months before a 25% drop in the stock's price. According to a 7 Sep 2000 article by the Associated Press, "At the time of the investigation, Bush's father was president of the United States and the SEC was run by one of his biggest political supporters, Richard Breeden. The SEC's then-general counsel, James R. Doty, was another staunch presidential supporter who as a private attorney was George W. Bush's lawyer when he purchased his share of the Texas Rangers baseball team." This is not Jordan's only connection to the Bush family. Jordan is a corporate lawyer in the Dallas office of Houston-based Baker Botts. Baker Botts has an office in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The client list at Baker Botts includes "more than half of the Fortune 100 companies". The client list also includes The Carlyle Group. On the board of directors for Carlyle is former President George Herbert Walker Bush. James A. Baker III is the current Baker in Baker Botts. Baker was Secretary of State under the first President Bush. He is currently senior counsel to The Carlyle Group. Baker was a classmate of Donald H. Rumsfeld at Yale University. Rumsfeld, the current Secretary of Defense, was the roommate of Frank C. Carlucci at Yale. Carlucci, who was head of the National Security Counsel under President Ronald Reagan, is currently chairman of The Carlyle Group. The current President Bush was a director of Caterair during the years 1990-1994. Caterair is owned by The Carlyle Group. The board of directors of The Carlyle Group also includes: former Phillipines President, Fidel V. Ramos; former director of the U.S. Office of Management & Budget, Richard Darman; former Assistant to the President (Bush I), Robert Grady; former Prime Minister of South Korea, Park Tae Joon; former SEC chairman, Arthur Levitt; former Prime Minister of Great Britain, John Major; former general director of the World Health Organization, Michael Orloff; retired U.S. Army General, J. H. Binford Peay; former president of Deutsche Bundesbank, Karl Otto Pohl; and former chairman of the Joint Chief's of Staff, John Shalikashvili. Two-thirds of Carlyle's holdings are in defense and telecommunications companies. At leaset $2 million of Carlyle funding has come from the bin Laden family of Saudi Arabia. http://www.truthout.org/docs_01/0662.Bush.Saudi.htm > > > > > > ***************************************************************** > > > > > > MEMRI: The Middle East Media Research Institute > > > http://memri.org/ > > > > > > Nov 14 SR# 22 - 2003 Palestinian Authority Textbook > > > Calls for Jihad and Martyrdom > > > http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SR2203 > > > > > > Nov 14 SD# 609 - Al-Qa'ida Commander in Iraq: 'A Terror > > > Attack Against the U.S. With 100,000 Deaths > > > is Imminent; We Ordered the Riyadh Bombing' ** > > > http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD60903 > > > > > > Nov 13 SD# 608 - Three Fatah Leaders Visit Washington, D.C. > > > http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD60803 > > > > > > Nov 12 SD# 607 - Arafat's National Security Advisor Jibril Rjoub: > > > 'The U.S. Administration is a Fascist > > > Administration,' 'The Iraqi Opposition to the > > > American Occupation Must be Increased' > > > http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD60703 > <snip> > > GIAT Industries: > http://www.giat-industries.fr/us_index.asp > > Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command > http://enterprise.spawar.navy.mil > > National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) > http://www.nro.gov > > Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) > http://www.darpa.mil > > The Security Council > http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/index.htm > > Confirmed coalition deaths: > http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/ > > *Rebuilding Iraq Conference* Arlington, Virginia > GET IN ON THE GROUND FLOOR! > IRAQ IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS!!! > http://www.new-fields.com/Iraq/ > > AL QAEDA'S AGENDA FOR IRAQ > By AMIR TAHERI > > September 4, 2003 -- 'IT is not the American war machine > that should be of the utmost concern to Muslims. > What threatens the future of Islam, in fact its very > survival, is American democracy." This is the message of > a new book, just published by al Qaeda in several Arab > countries. The author of "The Future of Iraq and The > Arabian Peninsula After The Fall of Baghdad" is Yussuf > al-Ayyeri, one of Osama bin Laden's closest associates > since the early '90s. A Saudi citizen also known by the > nom de guerre Abu Muhammad, he was killed in a gun battle > with security forces in Riyadh last June. > The book is published by The Centre for Islamic Research > and Studies, a company set up by bin Laden in 1995 with > branches in New York and London (now closed). Over the > past eight years, it has published more than 40 books by > al Qaeda "thinkers and researchers" including militants > such as Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's No. 2. > Al-Ayyeri first made his name in the mid '90s as a > commander of the Farouq camp in eastern Afghanistan, > where al Qaeda and the Taliban trained thousands of > "volunteers for martyrdom." > Al-Ayyeri argues that the history of mankind is the > story of "perpetual war between belief and unbelief." > Over the millennia, both have appeared in different > guises. As far as belief is concerned, the absolutely > final version is represented by Islam, which "annuls all > other religions and creeds." Thus, Muslims can have only > one goal: converting all humanity to Islam and "effacing > the final traces of all other religions, creeds and > ideologies." Unbelief (kufr) has come in numerous forms > and shapes, but with a single objective: to destroy faith > in God. In the West, unbelief has succeeded in making a > majority of people forget God and worship the world. > Islam, however, is resisting the trend because Allah > means to give it final victory. > Al-Ayyeri then shows how various forms of unbelief > attacked the world of Islam in the past century or so, > to be defeated in one way or another. > > The first form of unbelief to attack was "modernism" > (hidatha), which led to the caliphate's destruction > and the emergence in the lands of Islam of states > based on ethnic identities and territorial dimensions > rather than religious faith. > The second was nationalism, which, imported from Europe, > divided Muslims into Arabs, Persians, Turks and others. > Al-Ayyeri claims that nationalism has now been crushed > in almost all Muslim lands. He claims that a true Muslim > is not loyal to any particular nation-state. > The third form of unbelief is socialism, which includes > communism. That, too, has been defeated and eliminated > from the Muslim world, Al-Ayyeri asserts. He presents > Ba'athism, the Iraqi ruling party's ideology under > Saddam Hussein, as the fourth form of unbelief to afflict > Muslims, especially Arabs. Ba'athism (also the official > ideology of the Syrian regime) offers Arabs a mixture of > pan-Arabism and socialism as an alternative to Islam. > Al-Ayyeri says Muslims "should welcome the destruction > of Ba'athism in Iraq." > "The end of Ba'ath rule in Iraq is good for Islam and > Muslims," he writes. "Where the banner of Ba'ath has > fallen, shall rise the banner of Islam." > The author notes as "a paradox" the fact that all the > various forms of unbelief that threatened Islam were > defeated with the help of the Western powers, and more > specifically the United States. > The "modernizing" movement in the Muslim world was > ultimately discredited when European imperial powers > forced their domination on Muslim lands, turning the > Westernized elite into their "hired lackeys." > The nationalists were defeated and discredited in wars > led against them by various Western powers or, in the > case of Nasserism in Egypt, by Israel. > The West also gave a hand in defeating socialism and > communism in the Muslim world. The most dramatic example > of this came when America helped the Afghan mujaheeden > destroy the Soviet-backed communist regime in Kabul. > And now the United States and its British allies have > destroyed Ba'athism in Iraq and may have fatally > undermined it in Syria as well. > What Al-Ayyeri sees now is a "clean battlefield" in > which Islam faces a new form of unbelief. This, he > labels "secularist democracy." This threat is "far > more dangerous to Islam" than all its predecessors > combined. The reasons, he explains in a whole chapter, > must be sought in democracy's "seductive capacities." > This form of "unbelief" persuades the people that they > are in charge of their destiny and that, using their > collective reasoning, they can shape policies and pass > laws as they see fit. That leads them into ignoring > the "unalterable laws" promulgated by God for the whole > of mankind, and codified in the Islamic shariah > (jurisprudence) until the end of time. > The goal of democracy, according to Al-Ayyeri, is to > "make Muslims love this world, forget the next world > and abandon jihad." If established in any Muslim > country for a reasonably long time, democracy could > lead to economic prosperity, which, in turn, would > make Muslims "reluctant to die in martyrdom" in > defense of their faith. > He says that it is vital to prevent any normalization > and stabilization in Iraq. Muslim militants should make > sure that the United States does not succeed in holding > elections in Iraq and creating a democratic government. > "If democracy comes to Iraq, the next target [for > democratization] would be the whole of the Muslim > world," Al-Ayyeri writes. > The al Qaeda ideologist claims that the only Muslim > country already affected by "the beginning of > democratization" and thus in "mortal danger" is Turkey. > "Do we want what happened in Turkey to happen to all > Muslim countries?" he asks. "Do we want Muslims to > refuse taking part in jihad and submit to secularism, > which is a Zionist-Crusader concoction?" > Al-Ayyeri says Iraq would become the graveyard of > secular democracy, just as Afghanistan became the > graveyard of communism. The idea is that the Americans, > faced with mounting casualties in Iraq, will "just run > away," as did the Soviets in Afghanistan. This is > because the Americans love this world and are concerned > about nothing but their own comfort, while Muslims > dream of the pleasures that martyrdom offers in paradise. > "In Iraq today, there are only two sides," Al-Ayyeri > asserts. "Here we have a clash of two visions of the > world and the future of mankind. The side prepared to > accept more sacrifices will win." > Al-Ayyeri's analysis may sound naive; he also gets most > of his facts wrong. But he is right in reminding the > world that what happens in Iraq could affect other Arab > countries - in fact, the whole of the Muslim world. > AL QAEDA'S AGENDA FOR IRAQ > E-mail: amirtaheri@benadorassociates.com > > [<http://www.yaislah.org/englishnew.htm>] > The Movement for Islamic Reform in Arabia
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f7d8a,68c9282475a1c1ff,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf7d8a,public X-Google-Thread: fda56,68c9282475a1c1ff,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfda56,public X-Google-Thread: 114637,68c9282475a1c1ff,start X-Google-Attributes: gid114637,public X-Google-Thread: 115d9d,68c9282475a1c1ff,start X-Google-Attributes: gid115d9d,public X-Google-Thread: ffba4,68c9282475a1c1ff,start X-Google-Attributes: gidffba4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-17 15:42:26 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: Auntie_Al@techemail.com (Auntie_Al) Newsgroups: ba.broadcast,alabama.decatur.general,alt.obituaries,alt.radio.talk,alt.gathering.rainbow Subject: Re: "Bring-It-On!" QUESTION: "...the dust of humiliation and disgrace?" AnTiMaTtEr!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i Date: 17 Nov 2003 15:42:25 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 383 Message-ID: <9b58e48d.0311171542.267c376d@posting.google.com> References: <7ebe52d7.0311161608.315aa98b@posting.google.com> <%F9ub.170236$mZ5.1193236@attbi_s54> NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.247.220.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1069112546 3919 127.0.0.1 (17 Nov 2003 23:42:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:42:26 +0000 (UTC)