🚀 go-pugleaf

James H Whittemore <synchro1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
: 
: This conversation is starting to sound a little meanspirited.  Look,
: the guy tried to find out how to create a newsgroup, he made a mistake,
: but the group is there now and starting to have some traffic (and not
: just this thread). I suggest any musicians or people interested in
: local music in the Baltimore area check the listing out. 

I don't know that it was really mean spirited, but the bottom line is
that most sites DO NOT create all newsgroups dynamically, so unless the
appropriate discussion takes place, and the local admins add the group,
it basically dosen't exist.  I know for a fact that balt.music is not
on our network, and it's not because I have anything against having a
music group.  No discussion took place, so no newgroup message was
issued, hence no group was added.  Now if I see this group starts having
10-20 messages a day, then I might assume it was a valid group, and the
newgroup was lost somehow, but without one of the above methods it
just won't show up over here..

Setting up your server to just create anything that shows up, leaves
a site wide open for groups like balt.ravens.go.go.go, or other totally
useless names that have no real meaning, and are nothing more than a 
joke name..


: God knows the
: baltimore music scene could use a little activism. When I look at the
: listing of new newsgroups every week, I am sure the majority of them
: were also created without "official" sanction from the Bandwidth
: Protectors of the Internet (liberal cry for the 90s - Save the
: Bandwidth!). The analogy of moving into someone's house is a bit
: stretched, don't you think? Anyone whose ISP does not offer the group,
: should contact their provider and ask to have it added. Join us there
: if this is your area of interest.


Again I restate, how can someone join you in balt.music if it has
never been oficially created, this needs to be done first.  It's
really hard to post messages in a non-existant group.  I also don't
really believe that the "save the bandwidth" issue has anything to
do with this discussion, as this is only local low-volume traffic.

To go back to an old concept, once everybody in dc.* was crying 
that we needed a dc.ham-radio group, and of course there were 
arguments on both sides for this.  I then offered to create a
mailling list for this as it just wasn't high enough volume (only
a couple messages a day) to justify creating a group for the 
discussions, and about 20 people joined and used it for about
two months.  Well in the end it basically faded away, everyone 
realized this, and the wasteful creation of a group was avoided.
This is how many groups start before becoming an official group
on the global network.  So I would personally saw that this may
have been a good choice to prove the interest in the group, though
I am sure not all will agree...


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