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Article #34Re: [Admin] Newsgroup Control Policy
From: fuhfuhfreddie
Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 23:10
Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 23:10
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In article <vsga71ll1hmcvulnfp8m90udoukt0d2ifa@4ax.com>, Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@johnandrew.ca> wrote: > On Sun, 01 May 2005 19:09:54 GMT, fuhfuhfreddie > <freddie@dontbother.com> wrote: > > >In article <2q4a71lm3o5ks2tmfflchd36osm5vkv73h@4ax.com>, > > Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@johnandrew.ca> wrote: > > > >> Yet Shaw news allows rape newsgroups, incest newsgroups, kiddie > >> diddler newsgroups to propagate. Be nice if the Feds did their job and > >> shut it down and if the victims sued them for propagating it. > > > >Like what we really, really need is for the likes of Shaw and Telus to > >start deciding what we can and can't read or look at on Usenet. If they > >offend you, stop looking at them, silly boy. > > It is illegal for one. The people who download from these groups are > committing crimes. Why would you defend someones right to download > pictures of 4 year old boys giving blowjobs or pictures of women who > have been raped? First, my dear dimwit, you have to realize that there are tens of thousands of binary groups, not to mention tens of thousands of non-binary groups, most of them with nothing in them but a little bit of spam. People who post disgusting porn just move their stuff into other groups if ISPs start eliminating groups that are used for porn. That genie is way, way out of the bottle. Second, the ISPs do not want to be responsible for the content of what their customers download because that would be a huge legal headache for them. And the customers, with a few dimwitted exceptions, do not want the stuffed suits at Telus and Shaw to decide what is appropriate or not for them to look at. Third, the most disgusting imaginable stuff is going to be posted by someone, period, no matter whether half the cops in the world are out trying to stop them. It is *your* choice whether or not you go to find it and look at it. Obviously, you have. No doubt, like Pete Townshend, you were just doing research so you could warn the rest of us. Fourth, for well over three decades, every study correlating the availability of pornography with crime rates, in many different countries, has found that when porn is easily available, including kiddie porn, the crime rate is either unchanged or *goes down,* including child molesting. If you're thinking that looking at kiddie porn makes perverts go out and molest children, think again. If anything, by getting rid of the porn they jerk off to, you're removing the only outlet they have short of actually finding kids to molest. [1] So you see, Ninth, you really don't know much of anything about anything. Shouldn't you be out looking for Hells Angels or something? f. [1] This *not* an endorsement of molesting children for the production of kiddie porn. Child molesters are sick puppies who need to be hung by the toes and then given psychiatric treatment.
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