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On Sun, 01 May 2005 23:10:36 GMT, fuhfuhfreddie
<freddie@dontbother.com> wrote:

>In article <vsga71ll1hmcvulnfp8m90udoukt0d2ifa@4ax.com>,
> Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@johnandrew.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 01 May 2005 19:09:54 GMT, fuhfuhfreddie
>> <freddie@dontbother.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <2q4a71lm3o5ks2tmfflchd36osm5vkv73h@4ax.com>,
>> > Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@johnandrew.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yet Shaw news allows rape newsgroups, incest newsgroups, kiddie
>> >> diddler newsgroups to propagate. Be nice if the Feds did their job and
>> >> shut it down and if the victims sued them for propagating it.
>> >
>> >Like what we really, really need is for the likes of Shaw and Telus to 
>> >start deciding what we can and can't read or look at on Usenet. If they 
>> >offend you, stop looking at them, silly boy.
>> 
>> It is illegal for one. The people who download from these groups are
>> committing crimes. Why would you defend someones right to download
>> pictures of 4 year old boys giving blowjobs or pictures of women who
>> have been raped?
>
>First, my dear dimwit, you have to realize that there are tens of 
>thousands of binary groups, not to mention tens of thousands of 
>non-binary groups, most of them with nothing in them but a little bit of 
>spam. People who post disgusting porn just move their stuff into other 
>groups if ISPs start eliminating groups that are used for porn.
Newsgroups with titles like pedophilia and incest and rape are still
propagated even though they can be eliminated. Forget the fact it is
disgusting. I is illegal.

 That 
>genie is way, way out of the bottle.
They have never tried to cork it.

>
>Second, the ISPs do not want to be responsible for the content of what 
>their customers download because that would be a huge legal headache for 
>them. And the customers, with a few dimwitted exceptions, do not want 
>the stuffed suits at Telus and Shaw to decide what is appropriate or not 
>for them to look at.
Lisps who propagate newsgroups whose only function is illegal are
committing an illegal act.

>
>Third, the most disgusting imaginable stuff is going to be posted by 
>someone, period, no matter whether half the cops in the world are out 
>trying to stop them. It is *your* choice whether or not you go to find 
>it and look at it. Obviously, you have. No doubt, like Pete Townshend, 
>you were just doing research so you could warn the rest of us.
Actually paid RCMP should be doing that. It is easy to see in the list
of newsgroups available such binary groups intended solely for illegal
purposes. You claim to know its there but want the companies making
money from it not to stop it or law enforcement to investigate it.


>
>Fourth, for well over three decades, every study correlating the 
>availability of pornography with crime rates, in many different 
>countries, has found that when porn is easily available, including 
>kiddie porn, the crime rate is either unchanged or *goes down,* 
>including child molesting. If you're thinking that looking at kiddie 
>porn makes perverts go out and molest children, think again. If 
>anything, by getting rid of the porn they jerk off to, you're removing 
>the only outlet they have short of actually finding kids to molest. [1]
I disagree strongly. Porn makes it seem that such behavior is normal
and helps groom people into it. You are defending people who have no
outlet to raping children. I think those people should turn themselves
in to their local law enforcement or commit suicide. Try chemical
castration and throw away the computer.

>
>So you see, Ninth, you really don't know much of anything about 
>anything. Shouldn't you be out looking for Hells Angels or something?
Yeah you use your smarts to defend child pornographers. By the way
child molesters can't be treated. 

I've been out and about but all the guys on Harleys haven't been
flying colours.


>
>f.
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>[1] This *not* an endorsement of molesting children for the production 
>of kiddie porn. Child molesters are sick puppies who need to be hung by 
>the toes and then given psychiatric treatment.
They are not sick they are evil. These criminals will not be helped by
psychiatric treatment. People like you give them a veneer of humanity.