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So you assume that because I ride a bike I do it because I cannot afford a 
car ie most cyclists pay  lower taxes.  That is just outright prejudice and 
very ignorant.
Cycling is becoming more popular again with the older crowd.  Look at all 
the road bikes this summer.  I have a higher middle class income.
We all pay for gst and pst so buying a car has nothing to do with it that is 
your disposable income and we all pay the same.
We all pay to repair roads and everything else that goes with it when we do 
not even use it.  Cyclists do not require damage repair from what we do. 
So, drivers depend on our handouts.    We do not kill people by running into 
them either.  It is a might is right situation with some ignorant people 
unfortuneately which is where you are coming from.  Drivers are babies. 
Like deers and hunters, do the deers get guns too.
Do you pay for other people's costs in any other situation with such 
approval.  Talk about freedom of choice.  Zilch there.
I ride for fitness and the environment.  If you cannot see how fucked up 
this economy is because of abuse from car driver's lifestyle you are sadly 
misinformed.
I said I have been riding since 8 years old.  It has served me well.  No 
excuse for everyone else in my opinion.  If you want to be abusive to the 
nation and resources world wide you should pay for it.  We have a huge debt 
because everything is unassociated with the real cost of living.   I do not 
appreciate paying for everyone else's abuses.  No forethought.  Damn nature, 
damn the people,  it's all me, me, me for you and them.
I do not have to lie about anything the 185 deaths is proven- ask your 
health official.  You cannot take the truth you wimp.
If the common people are drivers then the majority is wrong  because they 
all turn their heads from the problem they caused.
There would not be a North American weight problem either if more people 
walked instead of taking the car everywhere they go.
Everyone pays your hospital bills for that disease related condition.    In 
a hurry to die which is passed on generation to generation by conditioning 
which costs us more and more and more.  no future for next generations of 
healthy people.
    Jail terms?  That would be for causing death by negligence.  If someone 
stole my bike I am quite sure they are not going to be killing people with 
it in the getaway process.  Give people stuff for free all their life like 
roads and they abuse it.

You think because someone pays $20,000 for a car they have more rights than 
me.  Twisted  You do not have a clue about anything obviously.
So let me just quote you "stupid, stupid, stupid"
I am going for a long ride now because the air is too thick on this 
newsgroup.


"DiscoDuck" <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote in message 
news:1149281792.987976.262460@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Yet somehow you think cyclists pay more?  They don't pay a dime.
> IN addition you're forgetting income tax.  Generally speaking those
> with cars make more than those who cycle (There are exceptions but the
> exception proves the rule).  The motive for most cyclists isn't the
> environment etc-for most it's the fact they can't afford a car.  Those
> with cars pay far more in taxes.  Don't forget to include the 14% in
> purchasing a brand new vehicle.  Assuming a "cheap" $20,000 car, that
> is $2,400 in tax alone.  Then all the little piddly taxes they tack on.
> So yes, drivers pay far far far far more in taxes than the cyclist.
> To suggest drivers cause the the 185 deaths you quote per year is
> ridiculous.
> The "common people" as you put it ARE drivers.
>
> Jail terms?  What are you going on about?
>
> smn wrote:
>> "They pay far more in tax's than cyclists (through gas"    No, a dime
>> per litre federally, sorry.
>> http://www.fin.gc.ca/toce/2005/gas_tax-e.html   Drivers pay 1/3 in tax of
>> the total gas price.  That includes gst. and prov. surtaxes.
>> Boils down to 10 cents per litre to the feds.  That no where near pays 
>> for
>> police, road construction and repair, ICBC losses, environmental 
>> problems,
>> respiratory disease (185 deaths/yr BC)  Court cases, jail terms  The 
>> common
>> people including your grand parents pay more than the driver.  The driver 
>> is
>> a parasite in this society, especially in N. America.
>> They pay for the price of a barrel of oil going up but not much in taxes
>> compared to the rest of the world which is probably the cause of this 
>> crisis
>> in the first place.  If they paid $1/litre since 1970 this would not be 
>> such
>> a big deal now.
>>
>>
>> "DiscoDuck" <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:1149274458.496985.288780@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > Why is it reverse?  They pay far more in tax's than cyclists (though
>> > gas).   Besides, maybe some of them aren't lazy so much as they do not
>> > want to wear a helmet which is mandated by the law of British, and
>> > enforced by use of force by BC's finest.  I know as that is the reason
>> > I don't ride anymore.  And I know I'm not lazy as I am more active than
>> > most (more than most cyclist too I bet).
>> >
>> > As for the rules of the road for cyclist, that is great but some of
>> > these rules are plain stupid, stupid, stupid.  For instance,
>> > prohibiting cyclist from riding across cross walks?  That one makes me
>> > role my eyes every time.
>> >
>> > smn wrote:
>> >> The point was to point out I am no slouch when it comes to knowing the
>> >> rules
>> >> and I follow them pretty closely.  I hate lazy, stupid drivers who 
>> >> think
>> >> they own you when it is actually the reverse when you look at who pays
>> >> for
>> >> what.
>> >> Glad we could clear that up at the 5th try. : )
>> >
>