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smn wrote:
> So you assume that because I ride a bike I do it because I cannot afford a
> car ie most cyclists pay  lower taxes.  That is just outright prejudice and
> very ignorant.

Call it what you want, but generally it is true.

> Cycling is becoming more popular again with the older crowd.  Look at all
> the road bikes this summer.  I have a higher middle class income.
> We all pay for gst and pst so buying a car has nothing to do with it that is
> your disposable income and we all pay the same.

The questions was who pays more in Taxes.  You said bicyclists do which
is patently ridiculous.  And of course the sales tax counts.

> We all pay to repair roads and everything else that goes with it when we do
> not even use it.  Cyclists do not require damage repair from what we do.
> So, drivers depend on our handouts.    We do not kill people by running into
> them either.  It is a might is right situation with some ignorant people
> unfortuneately which is where you are coming from.  Drivers are babies.

No where do I say might is right.  You made a ridiculous statement
about how cyclist pay more.  Plain nuts which is where YOU are coming
from.

By the way, do you know HOW many cyclists get killed by cars each year?
 I thought not.

> Like deers and hunters, do the deers get guns too.
> Do you pay for other people's costs in any other situation with such
> approval.  Talk about freedom of choice.  Zilch there.

Yes, constantly.  That is what a socialized medical system is all
about.

> I ride for fitness and the environment.  If you cannot see how fucked up
> this economy is because of abuse from car driver's lifestyle you are sadly
> misinformed.

No where did I argue this with you.  Where the fuck are you coming
from?  You ARE nuts.

I think they SHOULD encourage more cycling as the benefits outweigh any
risks.  Unfortunealy the consensus is riding is extremely dangerous
UNLESS you wear a helmet.  Both of which are false.
If you were serious about encouraging people to cycle, you would want
people to have the choice as to whether to wear a helmet, or not.
But likely you are control freak that probably WANTS to make people
ride a bike and MAKE them wear a helmet.  Yet do you support helmet use
in cars for all people.

> I said I have been riding since 8 years old.  It has served me well.  No
> excuse for everyone else in my opinion.  If you want to be abusive to the
> nation and resources world wide you should pay for it.

As should you for discouraging people from cycling which is very
healthy for you.

We have a huge debt
> because everything is unassociated with the real cost of living.   I do not
> appreciate paying for everyone Else's abuses.  No forethought.  Damn nature,
> damn the people,  it's all me, me, me for you and them.
> I do not have to lie about anything the 185 deaths is proven- ask your
> health official.  You cannot take the truth you wimp.

Oh I KNOW the truth.  It is you who cannot handle it and when cornered
cannot admit he is wrong-again.

> If the common people are drivers then the majority is wrong  because they
> all turn their heads from the problem they caused.
> There would not be a North American weight problem either if more people
> walked instead of taking the car everywhere they go.

Good, then encourage people to cycle to help with the eight
problem-make helmets choice NOW!  OR are you too controlling for that?

> Everyone pays your hospital bills for that disease related condition.    In
> a hurry to die which is passed on generation to generation by conditioning
> which costs us more and more and more.  no future for next generations of
> healthy people.


>     Jail terms?  That would be for causing death by negligence.  If someone
> stole my bike I am quite sure they are not going to be killing people with
> it in the getaway process.  Give people stuff for free all their life like
> roads and they abuse it.

Oh my, you are delusional.  How many people are killed by stolen cars a
year?

> You think because someone pays $20,000 for a car they have more rights than
> me.  Twisted  You do not have a clue about anything obviously.

I use to think like you until I was enlightened.  Until people who
wanted a helmet law said "Why should my tax dollars pay for your head
injury".  That is when I realized money was more important to those
people, than freedom of choice.  So to be consistent with their
argument about their tax dollar being the almighty, I agree with them
that the more you pay-the more rights you have.  I don't like it, but
that is what in fact supporters of the law are saying.


> So let me just quote you "stupid, stupid, stupid"
> I am going for a long ride now because the air is too thick on this
> newsgroup.

Yes you are thick.  And controlling.  The day you can admit that is the
first day of your recovery.