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"Mountain Goat" <rmgoatNO@SPAMshaw.ca> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:47:30 GMT, "Semper Liber"
> <nopolicestates??@freedom4�ll.xxx> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mountain Goat" <rmgoatNO@SPAMshaw.ca> wrote in message
> >news:c3e492pc3mulb191504442k3927mb6dbee@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:01:57 GMT, "Semper Liber"
> >> <nopolicestates??@freedom4�ll.xxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Power to the people? Patriots arise and defend your country from
freedom
> >> >robbers foreign and domestic!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Gun law spurs no violence - No problems arising from concealed weapons
> >> >permits.
> >> >
> >> Who gives a flying fuck what they do in do in the demented states?
> >
> >Because it destroys your usual 'leftard' argument that CCW's increase
> >violence.... DUH!!!!!!!!!
> >
> Because we are not as stupid as they are and have more guns in
> circulation than there are people in their country.

So? What does that have to do with the fact that CCW's don't increase
violence? What the hell does your drug induced paranoia have to do with
quashing our basic fundamental right to not be a victim?

FBI Uniform Crime Report (1992) shows that 70% of violent crimes are
committed by 7% of criminals, many of whom are on probation or are given
parole and released early. Of incarcerated felons surveyed by the Department
of Justice, 34% have been driven away, wounded, or captured by armed
citizens; 40% state that they have decided against committing crimes for
fear their would-be victims were armed.

The FBI's statistics in the 1992 Uniform Crime Report also concluded:
"Violent crime rates are highest overall in states with laws limiting or
prohibiting the carrying of concealed firearms for self-defense." [1] "The
FBI's data also show that in 20 other states that issue CCW permits
(including Arizona, Washington, Oregon, Tennessee, Wyoming, and others),
these states have enjoyed a REDUCTION in crime as follows: 1) Violent crime
rates are LOWER by 21%. 2) Homicide rates are LOWER by 33% 3) Robbery rates
are LOWER by 37% and 4) Aggravated assaults are lower by 13%."[2]

States offer selective reciprocity in this area. That is, a permit-holder in
one state may be able to carry or transport a weapon in other states with a
reciprocity agreement with the home state. Reciprocity does impose on the
permit-holder the responsibility for knowing and understanding the
differences in the laws between the states.

In 39 of the US states, issuing officials may not arbitrarily deny a permit
application, a practice known as Florida-style "shall issue." A further
eight states have "may issue" laws; typically specific "need" must be
established, but in practice, this is often a mechanism to prohibit most
people from carrying.

These "may issue" states range from "shall issue" in practice (Alabama and
Connecticut are examples) to "at the whim of local officials" (such as New
York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and California; rural officials in those
states liberally issue permits but officials in urbanized counties generally
are more restrictive) to "almost non-issue" in states such as Maryland where
even documented death threats are sometimes not sufficient to convince
officials to issue permits and to "never-issue" Hawaii, where permits are
never issued under any circumstances.

Two states, (Vermont and Alaska), allow any non-felon who has reached the
age of 16 or 21 respectively, to carry without a permit of any kind.
However, Alaska residents may still obtain a completely optional,
non-required permit so as to receive reciprocal carry rights in other
states, or to gain exemption from the NICS background check.

As of 2006, only two US States-Wisconsin and Illinois-have no provision
whatsoever that would allow for the legal concealed carry of firearms by
"ordinary" citizens. There are currently movements in each of these states
to pass concealed-carry laws; legislation was passed in 2004 and again in
2005, but vetoed by the respective governors. It is expected that Wisconsin
will have a signed Concealed Carry law by the end of 2007. The Kansas
legislature over-rode the governor's veto to pass CCW on March 23rd, 2006.