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Article #890Re: 4=> Wireless alarm systems RFI sources
From: willpot
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:20
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:20
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toujours le m�me Belge qui est m�content de son alarme par radio et qui parle USA maintenant quel pollueur ! <p?aul@aol.com> a �crit dans le message de news: td2u50l7d3044sl8pjtrrckate6bjlf82s@4ax.com... > On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:43:32 +0100, Paul i don' t read > <mail@aol.com> wrote: > > >What type of signals are able to produce RFI (Radio Frequency > >Interference) on Wireless Alarm Systems and will jeopardize they're > >operation? > >RF Transmitters operating: > >- ON the wireless frequency > >- Saturating the receiver > >- Intermodulation > >- Harmonics > >- Falling in the receiver bandpass > >- On the IF frequency > >- and more... > >In essence the problems caused by interference is the fact that by no > >way two (or more) systems can use simultaneously the same frequency. > > > >Not all Radio Frequency (RF) transmitters are able to generate RFI, > >they have to be in accordance to certain rules described hereafter. > > Find here with more detail the list of Radio Frequency (RF) > >transmitter sources generating RFI mentioned here above: > > > >1. RF transmitters operating "ON" the Wireless Alarm Systems > > frequency. > > This is the most annoying RFI, it require only a very low power to > > do so (in my REAL case, 1 milliWatt was enough); > > > >2. RF transmitters "SATURATING" the input stage of the Wireless Alarm > > Systems RF receiver > > A transmitter "close" to the operating frequency may have enough > > power to saturate the RF receiver input stage. > > This signal overrides the normal incoming RF sensor signals. > > This can happen with permanent installed RF transmitter stations or > > temporary operated (CB, Radio Ham, ++) mobile or fix. > > > >3. RF transmitters causing "INTERMODULATION" > > "In gross" its the mix of two signals that result in an on > > the frequency signal of the Wireless Alarm Systems due to the > > non-linearity of wireless RF receiver input stage. > > It can be defined as a beat tone generated by two signals where > > the mixed beat part is on the Wireless Alarm operating frequency. > > Realize that quite a fair amount of combinations may produce > > that sort of RF signal. > > > >4. "HARMONICS" of a RF transmitters falling in the Wireless receiver > > frequency bandwidth. > > All transmitters generate harmonics, those harmonics have to > > be suppressed (EMC requirement) to a certain degree, > > nevertheless there are still attenuated harmonics and when you > > have to deal with a powerful RF transmitter they may still be > > sufficient to "muzzle" the RF receiver sensor inputs of the > > Wireless Alarm Systems. > > > >5. a RF transmitter signal not directly on the frequency who is "NOT > > ATTENUATED" enough by the RF "receiver bandpass filters". > > The RF receiver's use already since approx. 20 years SAW filters. > > Those filters attenuate the beside the frequency incoming signals, > > however those signals are still coming true in an attenuated manner > > but they may be of a sufficient amplitude to "interfere" the RF > > receiver sensor inputs. > > > >6. RF transmitters on the IF (intermediate frequency) > > Modern wireless receivers use frequency conversion techniques > > who uses and IF stage to narrow the bandwidth (easier on lower > > frequencies). > > One drawback with them, if the IF frequency is not attenuated > > enough by the input stage, a RF transmission on that frequency will > > pass and generate RFI. > > > >As you see there is a quite some impressive number possible of RF > >transmitter sources that may generate RFI on Wireless Alarm System > >receivers. > > The major problem being that specific RFI avoidance techniques, used > >in military and by similar instances, are not affordable for wireless > >alarm systems even if the FCC (or like instances) would allow this > >type of avoidance techniques in wireless alarm systems. > > > > RFI is expectedly most of the time (and lucky enough) of the > >involuntary nature and not persistent but in the meanwhile the system > >is deaf and when it comes to security realize how easy it is to have a > >Wireless Alarm Systems disturbed... dead. > > Silent key, NO ALARM, NO DETECTION. > > > >Paul >
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