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4 total messages Started by Ya-Gui Wei Sun, 08 Aug 1993 19:39
Gateway for CHINA-NT@UGA under discussion
#1436
Author: Ya-Gui Wei
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1993 19:39
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This is a call for discussion about gatewaying CHINA-NT@UGA and the
usenet newsgroup talk.politics.china.  Currently a one-way gateway 
between the two groups already exists, which was done by adding the 
usenet mail gateway address talk.politics.china@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu
into the subscriber list of CHINA-NT@UGA.  The current discussion
is for upgrading the gateway to a two-way gateway. The following
is excerpted from a message I just posted to CHINA-NT:

Some background info for unaware netters: for a while now, the
messages from China-NT has been relayed to the usenet newsgroup
talk.politics.china, but the articles are not relayed in the opposite
direction.  Netters on the both groups have been actively participating 
in the discussions of many topics related to Chinese politics. However, it
has been very frustrating that the responses posted to talk.politics.china
are often not seen by the author of the messages being replied to 
since they are on CHINA-NT.

So here I would like to propose that a two-way gateway be established
between CHINA-NT and talk.politics.china, i.e., all messages on
talk.politics.china will be relayed to China-NT just as all messages
on China-NT are relayed to talk.politics.china now.

This measure will result in an increase in traffic volume for
China-NT. However, this increase probably will not be overwhelming
since the majority of articles appear on talk.politics.china in
recent weeks has been China-NT relays.

It is also my hope that the relaying of talk.politics.china
articles will help dilute the non-China related articles which
have been rather prevalent on China-NT nowadays, although I can't
guarantee that this hope is fulfillable.

Followups are directed to bit.admin and talk.politics.china.

  Ya-Gui Wei
Re: Gateway for CHINA-NT@UGA under discussion
#1437
Author: Steven Jones
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1993 17:11
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In article <1993Aug8.143928.26092@news.cs.indiana.edu>,
Ya-Gui Wei <yawei@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:
>
>Some background info for unaware netters: for a while now, the
>messages from China-NT has been relayed to the usenet newsgroup
>talk.politics.china, but the articles are not relayed in the opposite
>direction.  Netters on the both groups have been actively participating 
>in the discussions of many topics related to Chinese politics. However, it
>has been very frustrating that the responses posted to talk.politics.china
>are often not seen by the author of the messages being replied to 
>since they are on CHINA-NT.

>So here I would like to propose that a two-way gateway be established
>between CHINA-NT and talk.politics.china, i.e., all messages on
>talk.politics.china will be relayed to China-NT just as all messages
>on China-NT are relayed to talk.politics.china now.

Unseen messages are very frequently a problem in a different way
as well.  There are a large number of subscribers to the 
mailing list who do not unsubscribe when not reading the messages
for months at a time.  The unread messages from a high volume list
can fill up the disk storage on computers with many subscribers
to the list.   Reading the messages with a newsreader solves that
problem quite nicely.  Please do make this change.
Re: Gateway for CHINA-NT@UGA under discussion
#1438
Author: Micky_Wong
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1993 17:24
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In <1993Aug8.143928.26092@news.cs.indiana.edu>,
yawei@cs.indiana.edu (Ya-Gui Wei) writes:
>
>This is a call for discussion about gatewaying CHINA-NT@UGA and the
>usenet newsgroup talk.politics.china.  Currently a one-way gateway 
>between the two groups already exists, which was done by adding the 
>usenet mail gateway address talk.politics.china@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu
>into the subscriber list of CHINA-NT@UGA.  The current discussion
>is for upgrading the gateway to a two-way gateway. The following
>is excerpted from a message I just posted to CHINA-NT:
Lines deleted for brevity.

>  Ya-Gui Wei

Good idea. My vote is "Aye" .
Re: Gateway for CHINA-NT@UGA under discussion
#1439
Author: Ke Zeng ~{Tx?F~}
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1993 18:00
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In article <2460g7$idd@news.u.washington.edu> noyd@u.washington.edu (Steven Jones) writes:
|>In article <1993Aug8.143928.26092@news.cs.indiana.edu>,
|>Ya-Gui Wei <yawei@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:
|>>
|>>Some background info for unaware netters: for a while now, the
|>>messages from China-NT has been relayed to the usenet newsgroup
|>>talk.politics.china, but the articles are not relayed in the opposite
|>>direction.  Netters on the both groups have been actively participating 
|>>in the discussions of many topics related to Chinese politics. However, it
|>>has been very frustrating that the responses posted to talk.politics.china
|>>are often not seen by the author of the messages being replied to 
|>>since they are on CHINA-NT.
|>
|>>So here I would like to propose that a two-way gateway be established
|>>between CHINA-NT and talk.politics.china, i.e., all messages on
|>>talk.politics.china will be relayed to China-NT just as all messages
|>>on China-NT are relayed to talk.politics.china now.
|>
|>Unseen messages are very frequently a problem in a different way
|>as well.  There are a large number of subscribers to the 
|>mailing list who do not unsubscribe when not reading the messages
|>for months at a time.  The unread messages from a high volume list
|>can fill up the disk storage on computers with many subscribers
|>to the list.   Reading the messages with a newsreader solves that
|>problem quite nicely.  Please do make this change.
|
|
	To transit from listserv to newsgroup is different from two-way
relaying. There are readers who may no have the access to usenet and
readers who do not want to receive large volume of mails every day
through mailing list that may have even slightly defference in their
topics in discussion. and these people may not want to be "restricted"
by certain newsgroups.

	While two-way relaying between tpc and china-nt is considered to
be not so appropriate, one way routing from china-nt to tpc should be
regarded as making little sense. Therefore I support disconnection from
china-nt to tpc. I don't want to double check each time where the
posting was originated before I do the followup.

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