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3 total messages Started by Ray Kopp Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
Setting Newsgroup to Read Only
#392
Author: Ray Kopp
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
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I currently have a problem that I have been trying to remedy, unfortunatly
I didn't quite know how to go about it but some people have been forwarding
me some information and hopefully some of their suggestions will help.

I am the listowner of autism@maelstrom.stjohns.edu which is the newsgroup
bit.listserv.autism  Up until last December the list was an open list.  Being
open it got subjected to much flaming and battles.  In December I created 
rules and changed it to a private list.  Since then I have banned one 
subscriber, but while the newsgroup is still public it lets this individual
continue what he was banned for on the newsgroup.  

I wish for the newsgroup bit.listserv.autism to be changed to a read-only
newsgroup or a private posting newsgroup, however it is you have to set it
to.  Please contact me if you have any questions or if there is anything
else you need to know.  This has been very frustrating to me and the Panel
that we have setup to handle this list, as well as frustrating to other
subscribers who can only read through newsgroups and still have to put
up with the posting of this one poster.

Note: I have tried several methods of trying to contact someone at
american.edu to try to resolve this.  I have not had any response from
anyone I have contacted.   I plan on having this resolved one way or another.
While I don't like the idea of the possibility of interrupting the list to
a good number of my subscribers my next tactic is to stop the newsfeed and
then attempt to open it under a different name and feed it through a different
source if there is one.  Just today someone finally pointed me to this newsgroup,
so I am hoping that I will get a resolution to this and will be able to not
have to change the way it is fed.  Any help will be much appreciated.
Please feel free to email me.


Thanks,
Ray Kopp
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Re: Setting Newsgroup to Read Only
#393
Author: Peter M. O'Donnell
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
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Ray Kopp (rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu) wrote:

: I wish for the newsgroup bit.listserv.autism to be changed to a read-only
: newsgroup or a private posting newsgroup, however it is you have to set it

	the group must be made to be moderated. think long and hard about
this, it can complicate your life.
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Re: Setting Newsgroup to Read Only
#394
Author: Mark Drake
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
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In article <6i2ftv$2e3@newstand.syr.edu>, rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu (Ray
Kopp) wrote:

>I am the listowner of autism@maelstrom.stjohns.edu which is the newsgroup
>bit.listserv.autism  Up until last December the list was an open list.  Being
>open it got subjected to much flaming and battles.  In December I created 
>rules and changed it to a private list.  Since then I have banned one 
>subscriber, but while the newsgroup is still public it lets this individual
>continue what he was banned for on the newsgroup.  

I�m the listowner of christia@asuvm.inre.asu.edu and moderator of
bit.listserv.christia.  I have my list and newsgroup set up in such a way
that this was not a problem, and spam didn�t even make it onto the
newsgroup.  You may consider something similar for your list/newsgroup.

1.  I made the moderator submission address of the newsgroup the same as
the submission address of the list itself.  This way, whenever someone
tried to post to the newsgroup, the post was sent directly to the list,
and not put onto the newsgroup and automatically distributed by the list. 
This allows you to use the listserv to do all the moderating.  

2.  Instead of a private list, mine is set as:
         *  Send= Editor
         *  Default-options=editor
So anyone subscribed to the list can post freely, via both mail and the
newsgroup.  Anyone not subscribed to the list has his posts sent to the
list moderators for approval.  This pretty much removes spam from being
distributed.  And net.kooks who occasionally make it to the newsgroup can
be filtered by the moderators. 

3.  A lot of my listmembers prefer to read the list via the newsgroup. 
This allows them to do so, while still keeping the riffraff out.   When
someone starts participating via the newsgroup, and I determine that they
are �safe,� I add them to the list, and set their subscription to nomail. 
This allows them to post an article without the moderator having to
approve it first.  This cuts down on moderator work load.  Its a good
thing.

4.  I usually have less than 10 posts a day to approve, on a traffic of
60-100 posts a day. 

>Note: I have tried several methods of trying to contact someone at
>american.edu to try to resolve this. 

A lot of us listowners are having trouble contacting american.edu.  It
seems they may no longer be supporting gateways for lists that are not on
their listserv.  (Though they haven�t actually closed them down.)

You might get more info from the LISTSERV list owners' forum 
<LSTOWN-L@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>

-- 
Mark

drake@asu.edu
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