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Article #185Re: Basques at the arrival of the romans
From: Inaki Agirre Perez
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 00:00
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Eskerrik asko Miguel, egin duzun lanagatik. > The area of the Bascones is "ili" or "uri" as demonstrate by place > names like Pompeoili, Iliberris Auscitana, Iluro, Ilurcis and > Caragurris and Gracurris mentioned above. I'd be more cautious with 'uri', which in historical times is derived from ili > uli > uri (see: ili > uli > ulli, Araba, XVII) On one hand, uri and uRi are suposed to be contrastive in Pre-Basque. On the other hand, the stem is clearly present in Gracurris, founded by Romans close to Calagurris. It is quite concevaible that the Romans re-interpreted kala+gorri like calag+urri. > Villar agrees with this point of view and states "It appears > that the relationship between Basque and Iberian is strong but non > genetic, and that the correspondence should have moved from the more > civilized Iberian to the less civilized Bascones". Spanish bigotry... > There are many examples from the Celtic remains of Cortes de Navarra Hor hilarri bezalako lauza bat agertu da. Barruan hiru gizaki daude, eta erdikoak zer-edo-zer dauka eskuan, ez dut argi ikusi. Hori keltiarra al da? > It is not accidental that the town founded by > the Romans on the Cantabrian sea shore was called Flaviobriga and not > Flavioili had it would have been the case were the area controlled by > "natives" of the Iberian cultural sphere. This case is parallel to Gracurris. Unfortunately, little can be said from those mixtures, both in the limes of the Basqueland. Inaki
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