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Article #277Re: Am I my brothers keeper? was Re: twiz
From: Thrasher Remailer
Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 21:41
Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 21:41
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On , Randy McLaughlin <randy@nospam.com> wrote:
>"Tripper" <declaracao@conformidade.net> wrote in message
>news:1q5o71luuqoajdh4aj0ug2fu2dnc387u77@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 6 May 2005 18:11:20 -0500, "Randy McLaughlin"
><snip>
>> You have proved beyond doubt that you have absolutely no idea as to
>> what a remailer is, let alone anything about them.
>>
>> First and foremost NO REMAILER CHARGES ONE SINGLE CENT. All services
>> offered by all remailers are completely, totally and 100% FREE.
>> I have no idea what you "researched" but it sure as hell wasn't
>> remailers.
>>
>> All remailers (there are about 40) have a "capability string" which is
>> basically a list of commands and directives they accept and
>> restrictions they may impose. One part of this string is "klen" which
>> indicates the largest file size (in KB) that they will post. They vary
>> from 80k to 1024k. Not much room for "large binary postings" in that
>> lot, is there?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Love and Best Wishes,
>> Tripper
>
>If you bother to check out www.faqs.org and search their alt.sex faqs you
>will find links to commercial remailers that allow very large binary
>attachments.
>
>One faq is : http://www.faqs.org/faqs/alt-sex/stories/moderated-faq/
>
>It is obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. It only took
>seconds to do a google search to turn up a couple, you obviously have never
>tried google but with it you can type in what you are looking for and it
>provides a list that can be checked out to find what you are looking for.
>
>If you use google you can even discover that the term remailer extends to
>several subclasses including anonymous mail boxes that can store large
>mailboxes. Remailing is more than one thing it is a complete sub-class of
>items that pedophiles use to try avoiding arrest.
>
>
>Randy
Commercial remailers are not worth spit for those of use who are obsessed
with true privacy. any such service that you have to pay for leaves a
money trail that can be followed.
In the FAQ you referred to, the part dealing with anonymous addresses:
>
>
> 3. Where can I get an anonymous address?
>
> There are serveral services which offer web-only based replyable
> anonymization. There are also at least two others which can do it
> by email.
>
> I. www.NetForward.com gives users free mailboxes which can
> hide their real address. NetForward is descended from the old
> POBoxes.com.
>
> II. mail.Yahoo.com is another good source for free web-access
> mailboxes.
>
> III. www.DejaNews.com has also entered the free mailbox game,
> and gives access to the newsgroup as well.
>
> IV. www.Nymserver.com offered free and commercial anonymous
> remailing. Abuses by spammers forced it to be commercial
> only. It can be operated entirely by email
> (help@anon.nymserver.com).
>
> V. www.MailAnon.com is another commercial anonymous
> remailer. It seems to be descended from the EDTec remailer. I
> think it can be operated entirely by email.
>
> Nymserver has an excellent anonymous resources page at
> <URL:http://www.nymserver.com/resources/>. The newsgroups
> alt.anonymous and alt.privacy.anon-server are also good places to
> find out about other services.
>
> The Huge Cajones remailer and any other one-address-fits-all
> anonymizers by virtue of not having replyable addresses are not
> allowed. It is too easy to get free two way anonymization for me
> to feel these are necessary.
>
> _____________
This information is both out of date, and erroneous. ALL of the services
listed will have the users real information and could be required by court
order to produce it. There is NO anonymity there, only false security.
TRUE remailers do not have any information about the users. and users will
typically use chains of anywhere from three to seven or more remailers
before the message is finally sent to it's destination or mail2news.
For education check out:
http://panta-rhei.dyndns.org/pantawiki
This will show you some of what Tripper and I are talking about.
if you feel flameproof, drop by alt.privacy.anon-server and ask how to go
about posting even small binaries through remailers. (free advice, don't
use your real email when you do)
The term "remailer" as we're using it, refers to one of these cypherpunk
and mixmaster systems:
$remailer{"amessage"} = <mixmaster@remail.amessage.info> "cpunk max mix
middle pgp pgponly repgp remix latent hash cut test ekx inflt50 rhop5 reord
post klen512 middle";
$remailer{"amigo"} = <anon@remailer.org.uk> "cpunk max mix middle pgp
pgponly repgp remix latent hash cut test ekx inflt50 rhop5 reord klen100";
$remailer{"antani"} = <mixmaster@firenze.linux.it> "mix pgp pgponly repgp
remix latent hash cut test ekx inflt50 rhop20 reord post";
$remailer{"apple2"} = <remailer@bigapple.dynalias.net> "cpunk mix hybrid
pgp latent ek ekx esub cut hash post repgp remix ext max test inflt32 rhop5
klen94";
$remailer{"austria"} = <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> "cpunk mix pgp
pgponly repgp remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop20 reord
klen1024";
$remailer{"banana"} = <mix3@bananasplit.info> "mix middle remix esub
inflt50 rhop5 reord klen100";
$remailer{"bikikii"} = <remail@bikikii.ath.cx> "cpunk mix hybrid middle pgp
pgponly latent ek ekx esub cut hash post repgp remix reord ext max test
inflt50 rhop5 klen125";
$remailer{"bunker"} = <mixmaster@mixmaster.thebunker.net> "mix middle remix
esub inflt50 rhop20 reord post";
$remailer{"citrus"} = <mix@outel.org> "cpunk max mix middle pgp pgponly
repgp remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop5 reord";
$remailer{"cmeclax"} = <cmeclax@ixazon.dynip.com> "cpunk max mix middle pgp
pgponly repgp remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop5 reord
post";
$remailer{"crimix"} = <mixmaster@mixmaster.ath.cx> "cpunk max mix middle
pgp repgp remix latent hash cut test ekx inflt50 rhop5 reord post";
$remailer{"cripto"} = <anon@ecn.org> "cpunk mix pgp pgponly repgp remix
latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop20 reord post klen150";
$remailer{"cside"} = <cside@cside.dyndns.org> "mix middle remix inflt50
rhop5 reord";
$remailer{"cthulu"} = <mixmaster@cthulu.joatcrafts.org> "cpunk mix middle
pgp pgponly remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop20 reord
klen300";
$remailer{"daat"} = <mix@daat.aarg.net> "cpunk max mix middle pgp pgponly
repgp remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop5 reord klen1024";
$remailer{"dingo"} = <dingo1@dingoremailer.com> "cpunk mix hybrid middle
pgp pgponly latent ek ekx esub cut hash post repgp remix reord ext max test
inflt50 rhop5 klen1000";
$remailer{"dizum"} = <remailer@dizum.com> "cpunk mix pgp pgponly repgp
remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop20 reord post klen64";
$remailer{"frell"} = <godot@remailer.frell.eu.org> "cpunk mix pgp pgponly
repgp remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop5 reord post
klen1024";
$remailer{"george"} = <mix@mixmaster.it> "cpunk max mix pgp repgp remix
latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop5 reord post";
$remailer{"harmless"} = <harmless@minder.net> "cpunk mix middle pgp repgp
remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop20 reord klen1024";
$remailer{"hastio"} = <anon@remailer.hastio.org> "cpunk mix hybrid pgp
latent ek ekx esub cut hash repgp remix reord ext max test inflt75 rhop6
klen1000";
$remailer{"hermes"} = <remailer@eocto.net> "cpunk max mix middle pgp
pgponly repgp remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop5 reord";
$remailer{"italy"} = <aquarius@italy-anonymous-remailer.it> "cpunk mix
hybrid pgp pgponly ek ekx esub cut hash post repgp remix reord ext max test
inflt75 rhop5 klen100";
$remailer{"kroken"} = <remailer@kroken.dynalias.com> "cpunk mix middle pgp
pgponly repgp remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop20 reord
klen1024";
$remailer{"krotus"} = <mix@buckwheat.jwiz.org> "cpunk mix middle pgp
pgponly remix latent hash cut test ek esub inflt50 rhops20 reord";
$remailer{"metacolo"} = <mix@remailer.metacolo.com> "cpunk max mix pgp
repgp remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop5 reord post";
$remailer{"panta"} = <remailer@panta-rhei.dyndns.org> "cpunk mix hybrid
hcnews pgp latent ek ekx esub cut hash post repgp remix reord ext max test
inflt75 rhop5 klen1000";
$remailer{"paranoia"} = <anon@paranoici.org> "cpunk mix pgp pgponly repgp
remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop20 reord post klen250";
$remailer{"randseed"} = <randseed@melontraffickers.com> "cpunk mix pgp
pgponly repgp remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop20 reord
post";
$remailer{"riot"} = <anon@riot.eu.org> "cpunk mix middle pgp pgponly repgp
remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop5 reord post klen1024";
$remailer{"starwars"} = <mixmaster@tatooine.homelinux.net> "cpunk mix pgp
pgponly repgp remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop20 reord
post";
$remailer{"thrasher"} = <thrasher@reece.net.au> "cpunk mix hybrid pgp
pgponly latent ek ekx esub cut hash post repgp remix reord ext max test
inflt75 rhop5 klen1000";
$remailer{"tonga"} = <remailer@cypherpunks.to> "mix remix esub inflt50
rhop20 reord post";
$remailer{"userbeam"} = <remailer@userbeam.net> "mix remix inflt50 rhop5
reord";
$remailer{"vger"} = <mix@vger.smbtech.com> "cpunk mix middle pgp repgp
remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt256 rhop20 reord post
klen8192";
$remailer{"zerofree"} = <remailer@zerofreedom.homeip.net> "cpunk mix middle
pgp pgponly repgp remix latent hash cut test ek ekx esub inflt50 rhop20
reord";
$remailer{"senshi"} = <senshiremailer@gmx.de> "cpunk middle pgp latent ek
ekx esub cut hash repgp reord ext max test inflt10 rhop2 klen200";
$remailer{"at"} = <config@nym.at> "newnym2 pgp klen1024 dh/dss";
$remailer{"blackhol"} = <config@blackhole.riot.eu.org> "newnym pgp
klen1024";
$remailer{"hod"} = <config@hod.aarg.net> "newnym2 pgp klen1024 dh/dss";
$remailer{"komite"} = <config@nym.komite.net> "newnym2 pgp klen1024
dh/dss";
$remailer{"nym"} = <config@nym.alias.net> "newnym pgp klen1024";
$remailer{"nymph"} = <config@nymph.paranoici.org> "newnym2 pgp klen1024
dh/dss testing";
$remailer{"pantanym"} = <config@nym.panta-rhei.eu.org> "newnym newnym2 pgp
klen1024";
$remailer{"rot26"} = "<rot26@mix.uucico.de> mix";
$remailer{"tek1"} = <mix@remail.in> "cpunk max mix middle pgp repgp remix
latent hash cut test ekx inflt50 rhop5 post";
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From: Thrasher Remailer <thrasher@reece.net.au>
Date: 8 May 2005 21:41:44 -0000
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Subject: Re: Am I my brothers keeper? was Re: twiz
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