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Re[2]: Consultants and BPR, TQM, ad nauseum

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From: AL CHRENKA
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 1994 17:23
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>Denis,
>
>Yes, transitions require ritual elders to hold "transformational space" for
>others but one quality that is absolutely essential for the role is that
>the shaman must have taken the journey/engaged in the transformation for
>which they now hold the container. You cannot guide a "rite of passage" to
>somewhere you have not been yourself.  This, I believe, is one big problem
>with consultants who are selling something they have not been on the
>receiving end prior to their consultancy.
>
>Gervase Bushe


THERE IS A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH CONSULTANTS WHO ARE OUT THERE SELLING
TRANSFORMATIONAL MAPS TO THE FUTURE, MUCH LIKE THE PIRATES OF PAST WITH
THEIR "X" MARKS THE SPOT TREASURES.  HOWEVER, THE PROBLEM IS NOT WITH
THE PIRATES BUT WITH THE GET RICH QUICK MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE.
PIRATES KNOW WHAT MOTIVATES SHORT TERM SUCCESS.

THERE PROBABLY SHOULD BE MORE SHAMANS WHO ADMITTEDLY DON'T HAVE THE
ANSWERS BUT PERHAPS A WEALTH OF WORTHY QUESTIONS.  DOESN'T HELP THE
SHORT RUN, BUT LONG TERM JOURNEYS MAY HAVE A CHANCE.

THE SHAMAN, IT SEEMS TO ME, ISN'T AS MUCH THE ENLIGHTENED TRAVELER, AS
MUCH AS A TRAVELER WITH ABSTRACT THINKING. E.G. EINSTIEN, et al.  NOT
ALL KNOWLEDGE IS YET FOUND, SO WHO FINDS IT?
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