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Re: Education and training

#186
From: becky knight
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:00
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Quality folks,
Perhaps if we made our educational offerings a bit more sexy and drove the
training home, so to speak, we would be bombarded with requests for our
involvment in education and training projects!
What makes education 'sexy' in the industrial and service world? This is
serious question. Ignore your first responses and remain professional.
Given that men and women have different attitudes about learning and forget
gender there is need to appeal to non-engineers so what we like may not be
designed for them and not sexy, as I am suggesting. (Clarro had great post
addressing change management that fits here!)
Training is one of those activities that turns everyone off the minute they
hear the word...moan, groan...how long am I going to have to sit there? what
are they trying to dump on me now?
and the managers say it is too costly and interferes with production....
So, as Clarro was suggesting...we must do some planning and start
identifying the kinds of competencies...I need help with that
language...name some of the competencies other than literate,
or not literate may be acceptable for the work....those competencies?
I don't mind showing my ignorance by asking questions...only way I've ever
learned anything useful was to ask...as those questions tell the teacher
where to lead me...
Later,
Becky Knight
wilson11@flash.net

Bigham, Dave wrote:

> This reminds me of a distinction that was once made between training and
> education.  Some of our schools provide the students with Sex Education
> and Driver Training - And with good reason!
>
> Dave Bigham
> Elsag-Bailey Process Automation
> dbigham@bailey.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Kasser [mailto:jkasser@ucsfs1.umuc.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 3:57 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list QUALITY
> Subject: Education and training
>
> IMHO, Training helps you do your current job better.
> Education prepares you for the future.
> ======================================================
> Joe Kasser DSc, CM, CEng.   (W3/G3ZCZ)              Organizational
> Engineering
> University of Maryland University College           The Excellence!
> Paradigm
> mailto:jkasser@polaris.umuc.edu
> office phone 301 985-4616, fax 301 985-4611
> http://www.umuc.edu/~jkasser
> ======================================================
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