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Article #420Re: Banning nodes...
From: Dave Phillips
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 13:20
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 13:20
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Ofer, My suggestion was made in the same vein as Jonathan Swift's much earlier "Modest Proposal" concerning British-Irish relations. I understand the problems and was having some fun with the obviously-unworkable suggestion. I certainly wasn't proposing a side peace process to the main one underway, nor was I trying to make more work for you :) Seriously, however, most users still don't understand how tenuous Relay is at some sites, that node admins may pull Relay access from their students, and sometimes even restrict network access entirely. More and more nodes are leaving BITNET and hence users at those nodes are unable to access any Relay (although they often can get onto Internet Relay Chat). On sites that maintain their Bitnet connections, Relay is viewed by admins as either a positive thing (rare) or a harmless one (more likely). Once a node that hosts a relay decides that Relay is not worth the resources it consumes (often modest as they are), the plug is pulled. As former masterop at Buffalo's Relay, I ran the relay for a student club which had responsibility for student self-management of all vax games and similar software on campus. We had no official standing, and Relay has been tolerated here since Bill Palter (Zev) set it up quite some time ago. When we ran into problems with substantial account sharing, bad registrations, and other abuse, we locked users. When a node's share of locked users exceeded a reasonable level *and* if we could not find someone with standing at that node with whom we could work to resolve problems, we disabled service to that node. This was done to allow other nodes, with better willingness to cooperate and keep their students' access, more access to the limited number of slots on our relay. Dropping service to nodes should be a last resort, but individuals at those nodes should realize that to keep access to relay a node should not only have a reasonable percentage of responsible users but an administrator who can work with relay masterops to settle cases of abusive behavior. -dave phillips
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10771c,b0bf125064f443b6 X-Google-Attributes: gid10771c,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-09-20 06:24:24 PST Newsgroups: bit.listserv.relusr-l Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.kei.com!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!davep From: davep@acsu.buffalo.edu (Dave Phillips) Subject: Re: Banning nodes... Message-ID: <CDnMDo.Htx@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: autarch-14.acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB References: <RELUSR-L%93091911424218@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 13:20:11 GMT Lines: 32