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Article #443In regards to a particular SAUPM00 Questionnaire (Long)
From: Gina Gestautas
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 16:42
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 16:42
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I know that this is unexpected, but I felt I had to respond to the file
that has been sent around requesting that the user reply to a small
questionnaire and then send a copy back to "EAGLE" (STUP015@SAUPM00) and
also send a duplicate to SYSPROG. I am sending this to make everyone
aware that this is tantamount to e-mail "BOMBING" (filling up a
persons e-mail account in order to make life difficult for them).
If you are not aware of the situation, the SAUPM00 node administrator
requested that SYSPROG ban his node from relay and add (on a case
by case basis) good users that he would specify to SYSPROG. Some SAUPM00
users wish to suggest that it is a dedicated PLOT to keep them off
relay by certain "BAD OPS". I do not condone this kind of behavior
after I have experienced and had many recount to me experiences of
harrassment, rudeness and lack of consideration for the other people's
feelings from users at SAUPM00. Yes, it is unfortunate that it has
come to this, but under the current plan good users can contact their
own node administrator and be approved to use relay. I am forwarding
my response to this mail bombing request to the list to make you aware
of the current situation to ask that you NOT mail bomb SYSPROG.
Thanks for your consideration. Gina Gestautas (aka Luna)
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Eagle,
I would suggest that before you and your friend on SAUPM00 hurt
yourselves more in the eyes of your own node administrator that
you stop this campaign against SYSPROG. He banned your node at
the express request of *YOUR OWN* node administrator who is tired
of dealing with the many complaints against SAUPM00 users.
Yes, it is unfair to judge all by the acts of one. Yes, it is
unfair to deny relay access to those that have not yet caused problems..
But the issue here many times is that many users from YOUR node do
not consider much of what they are doing as problematic. Thus, it
is difficult to communicate since many think there IS no problem,
yet time and time again, other relayers have complained and been
harrassed because the perpetrators thought they were having "FUN".
I personally HAVE been harrassed (especially when I first logged
on to relay) by users in your node. Yes, that may have been long
ago, but it seems that the current users have not learned from
the mistakes of the past users who have been banned, etc.
It seems quite interesting to me that you requested that a copy of
your survey be sent to SYSPROG, but not to your own administrator.
I think that he also should see the kind of comments that are made
about your schoolmates, but then again.. I think he already knows.
I would suggest that your group stop harrassing not only other relay
users, but SYSPROG himself. He had not part in this except for
having to deal with the issues that your node (and for that matter)
all nodes generate. Personally, from my experience on relay, he
gave your node another chance and you all blew it. If this constant
harrassment and lobbying on your behalf does not stop, I will
personally send a note to your administrator and to the governing
body of BITNET to see that they note how persistent (and unconsiderate)
your node has been toward many that have tried to deal with you.
Sincerely,
Gina Gestautas (speaking for myself and no one else).
C231GNG@UTARLVM1 (this is my work account and if I get bombarded with
mail or messages, *SOMEONE* is going to be very sorry)
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Subject: In regards to a particular SAUPM00 Questionnaire (Long)
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