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Article #504DEMOS vs SimKit / VDT
From: Christian Steinebach
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 11:19
Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 11:19
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In article <9405261015.AA16229@io>, "Henry E. Islo" <hio@CADCAM.KTH.SE> writes: |> Answering Christian, |> |> I don't know anything about KAPPA. I have read some reports a few years ago |> about very ambitious efforts to program large industrial simulations using |> SimKit. The results where a catastrophe. All the object oriented concepts were |> there, but the execution was so slow ( less than 10 events per second ) that |> the model appeared to stand still. |> I don't know anything about speed, but, taken into account that the SimKit was originally written in Lisp and is now translated into KAPPA might have helped a bit. If, however, it is not considerebly faster my question is answered. |> In comparision SIMULA/DEMOS or SIMULA/Simulation execute thousands of events |> per second. Large industrial simulations ( 100 machining centers, 300 employees, |> 600 product types, and thousands of parts in the manufacturing process) will |> typically execute 2000 to 20000 times faster than real time. |> |> Converting SIMULA code to KAPPA might not be all that easy. There are some very |> powerful facilities in SIMULA, such as nested quasi-parallel systems which |> are not that easy to copy. Would be nice to see somebody try it and hear how |> it went. |> CIFE (Center for Integrated Facility Engineering) at Stanford is using the kit for "enterprise modeling/simulation" in its VDT (Virtual Design Team) where they try to model the whole organization (information exchange, decisions, planning etc.) to get an idea of the organizational performance of an engineering design team, e.g. in constructing a power plant. As everybody seems to talk about the Virtual Design Team and modeling of organizations (at least here in Norway :-) ), has anything been done with SIMULA in that area? The possibility of nested quasi-parallel systems should be very useful for modeling organizations. |> Henry Islo Christian
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 113dd9,ec1647f8e076978f X-Google-Attributes: gid113dd9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-05-26 06:18:26 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!demon!uknet!pipex!sunic!ugle.unit.no!mtdhp1.marintek.sintef.no!chris From: chris@mtdhp1.marintek.sintef.no (Christian Steinebach) Newsgroups: bit.listserv.simula Subject: DEMOS vs SimKit / VDT Date: 26 May 1994 11:19:56 GMT Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway Lines: 38 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2s20ks$hv0@ugle.unit.no> References: <9405261015.AA16229@io> NNTP-Posting-Host: mtdhp1.marintek.sintef.no