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Article #3577Re: Searching for Models
From: Peter Hamer
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1992 17:25
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1992 17:25
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In article <920124125346.2040177b@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu> you write:
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>The dangers of using stepwise regression to search for a model with high
>R-squared are well known. With small samples and noisy data, searching
>for the best-fitting model can overestimate the fit of a predictive
>model, among other problems.
>
>I am concerned about a similar practice, with a different slant, that
>appears occasionally in my field: searching for a model specification
>that gives a "good" distribution of residuals. The underlying idea is
>that anything other than i.i.d. normal errors suggests violation of the
>assumptions of a linear model.
A suggestion, a question, and a purturbation.
1) The woes of overfitting can be reduced by resampling. In the case of
regression this means using cross validation to minimising error-of-
rediction rather than error-of-fit.
I'm not immediately certain how you would apply cross-validation in
your case. Unless, say, 10% of your data is enought to give a believable
measure of goodness-of-fit.
However, you could use the jack-knife (or the bootstrap) to estimate the
confidence intervals for your fitted parameters.
Off the top of my head. You could probably go further, in one of two ways -
a) Combine the confidence intervals with priors for the parameters in a
sort of Bayesian analysis.
b) Move towards a ridge-regression approach. Minimising a criteria of
fit which combines your goodness-of-fit metric with a size-of-parameters
metric.
2) I like your idea of looking for good residual distributions (isn't this
a form of projection pursuit?). I am *very* interested to know which
goodness-of-fit statistic you use (and for references to the use of this
approach).
3) The program MARS (from statlib) tries to re-express your data so that it
fits a linear model better. I haven't tried it yet, and the approach is
probably best regarded as somewhat experimental. However, if you are still
uncertain about the form of your model it might provide useful insights
(or simply confirm your assumptions).
Regards, Peter
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f5efb,e5856ed0bab03434 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5efb,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-01-29 09:45:50 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!uknet!stl!pgh From: pgh@stl.stc.co.uk (Peter Hamer) Newsgroups: bit.listserv.stat-l Subject: Re: Searching for Models Message-ID: <5349@stl.co.uk> Date: 29 Jan 92 17:25:21 GMT References: <920124125346.2040177b@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu> Sender: news@bnr.co.uk Reply-To: "Peter Hamer" <pgh@stl.stc.co.uk> Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, UK Lines: 47