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In article <1993Jan18.204348.28242@shearson.com> pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger) writes:
>hhuang@athena.mit.edu (Han-Young Huang) writes:
>>There are tons more other newsgroups which do little, and the mail
>>traffic on the extropian mailing list is extraordinarily high.  There
>>is enough just cause, if that's the problem.
>
>I don't think people want a newsgroup because they prefer the
>semi-private nature of the mailing list. The S to N ratio, although
>fairly low, is extremely high compared to most Usenet newsgroups. In
>any case, this question gets rehashed every few months and the market
>almost always seems to come up with the same answer.

Has there ever been an attempt made to create alt.extropians and to
gate bit.listserv.xtropy-l?  Does the extropian mail list own rights
to newsgroups?

We'll have an alt.extropians list for people who are curious enough to
learn about it.  Unless I'm mistaken, the level of maintenance for an
alt. group is not terribly high.

Also, the probability I would have joined bit.listserv.xtropy-l is
quite small, given the somewhat ambiguous naming of the group name (no
offense to Pat Salsbury).

>>Let's at least post among ourselves to give the appearance of
>>traffic, eh?  ;-)
>
>As you note, there is already plenty of traffic on the mailing list.
>The bit. list was created by Pat Salsbury because he didn't like the
>rules on the normal list, but it looks like the normal list kind of
>won out. The market for the usenet/bitnet version doesn't seem to
>exist. You can create yet another newsgroup, but its doubtful that
>people will patronize it much.

I think it'll have a longer-term usage and ``market'' than newsgroups
such as alt.ketchup, alt.mcdonalds.ketchup (recently = alt.mcdonalds,
by the way; I guess there just wasn't too much to say about McDonald's
ketchup), alt.nick.sucks, all the 
alt.[favorite bitch target].bitch.bitch.bitch or
alt.[favorite sucking target].sucks.sucks.sucks newsgroups.  (I mean,
how many people does it take to start up a alt.ketchup newsgroup anyway?)

We don't have to be ascetic here.  Why should we insist on massive
demand, if many more infinitely more idiotic alt. newsgroups are
created all the time?  The newsgroup can be a lower-grade level of the
mailing list (which, I'd like to say, is very interesting to read).

>by the way, for those that don't know, the mailing list is joinable
>by send extropians-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu; its a semi-private list,
>meaning by joining you agree to a few things, like not reposting mail
>off the list and not flaming.

All I'm saying is have a more public place for extropians, such as two
mutually gated newsgroups (alt.extropians, bit.listserv.xtropy-l).
But I'm a newbie, so instruct me where I'm mistaken.  Perhaps attempts
have been tried, and they have always been given the thumbs down?

Thanks for taking the time to respond to me.