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Re: WORD-MAC digest 284 (Danny Thomas <D.Thomas@vthrc.uq.edu.au>)
subscribe (Chris <C.Harris@hertfordshire.ac.uk>)
 (Chris <C.Harris@hertfordshire.ac.uk>)
 ("Jeff Allen 814 863-2427" <JMA110@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>)
Re: On-line Editing Tools? (aet@deakin.edu.au (Andrew Treloar))
Formatting in Print Merge & Invisible Paras. (rgoodhew@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au
 (Ron Goodhew))
Re: Error Condition Re: Re: WORD-MAC digest 284 (Word-Mac Moderator <mmacword>)
RE: [Q] Word 5.1 and Extended Postscript (fwd) (Word-Mac Moderator <mmacword>)

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Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 20:38:03 +1000
From: Danny Thomas <D.Thomas@vthrc.uq.edu.au>
To: word-mac@alsvid.scu.edu.au
Subject: Re: WORD-MAC digest 284
Message-ID: <199403201029.UAA07908@xroads.vthrc.uq.oz.au>

David Carson (Word Support):
>Word reads into the header of the file and finds the PostScript header
>(so it automatically determines that it's an EPS file). But, if you
>install the Text with Layout converter (Custom Install) Word will then
>ask you how you want to convert the PostScript file (as Text, Text with
>Layout or EPS). You want to select Text.

which explains one of the problems I described in the message I had
submitted just before digest 284 arrived. If my memory is holding up, I had
specifically disabled the Text with Layout converter because I wanted to
access all 20M on my Quadra 8-).
    I still stand by my recommendation of BBEdit as useful for working with
PostScript. I bought my copy and don't know whether the shareware version
includes the PS download capability.

cheers,
Danny Thomas



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Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:33:06 +0000 (GMT)
From: Chris <C.Harris@hertfordshire.ac.uk>
To: word-mac@alsvid.scu.edu.au
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Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 13:43:05 +0000 (GMT)
From: Chris <C.Harris@hertfordshire.ac.uk>
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Date:    Sun, 20 Mar 94 17:01 EST
From: "Jeff Allen 814 863-2427" <JMA110@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
To: <word-mac@alsvid.scu.edu.au>
Message-ID: <199403202201.AA14605@alsvid.scu.edu.au>

Subject: Help with Turning Tables

I know that there is a trick to using profile and landscape page options in the
 same word document.  I am working on my dissertation (final stage) and hoping
to integrate my tables into one of my chapters so that my page numbering is not
 messed up.  I anyone has suggestions, please contact me as soon as possible...
. Thanks for the help

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 08:25:13 +1000
From: aet@deakin.edu.au (Andrew Treloar)
To: word-mac@alsvid.scu.edu.au
Subject: Re: On-line Editing Tools?
Message-ID: <199403202225.IAA22521@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au>

>Date: Thu, 17 Mar 94 16:34:18 -0800
>From: Torsten Heycke <heycke@camis.stanford.edu>
>To: word-mac@alsvid.scu.edu.au
>Subject: On-line Editing Tools?
>Message-ID: <Mailstrom.1.03.14090.11025.heycke@camis.stanford.edu>
>
>The subject is perhaps misleading. What I desire is some program that works
>with
>Word (and preferably other Macintosh text-processing programs) that will allow
>an editor to indicate where changes need to be made without necessarily making
>these changes (if this makes sense). In fact, as archaic as this may seem, the
>best solution might actually be some electronic way of marking up a document
>with standard editorial marks (the documents formatting changes, but the marks
>are on top). Ideally, you would be able to see these marks with the document,
>but it would be acceptable, I suppose, if they only showed up when printed (ie
>these could be PostScript "watermarks" kind of things).

Three solutions immediately come to mind:

1.      Use the nifty annotation feature built into Word 5.1 (and
presumably up). This allows multiple users to place annotations in various
places in the text, with a special (user-definable) mark to indicate where.
2.      Format the annotations as hidden text.
3.      Buy a copy of Markup, which is specifically designed for this kind
of stuff.

Neither is as nice as scribbling all over someone else's prose with a red
pen, of course.

Have a Ron Goodhew-ish day! (:-)


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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 09:59:44 +1000
From: rgoodhew@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Ron Goodhew)
To: word-mac@alsvid.scu.edu.au (word-mac Postings)
Cc: Jethro Miller <jeth@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu>,
Subject: Formatting in Print Merge & Invisible Paras.
Message-ID: <199403202359.JAA06336@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au>

Just a quick reply to a couple of questions in Digest 283, since I haven't
got this week's TFTW ready yet !!!

Jethro Miller asks:

>        When I merge a main document with a data document (in a
> table format) which has italics in parts of some cells, the italics
> formatting doesn't appear in the merged document.  Seems like it
> should.  Am I doing something wrong or is the program at fault?

It's not a program fault. Print merge only reads _text_ from the data
document so it doesn't matter how you format it or which font you use etc.
If you want various fields in italics in the merged documents then apply
that attribute to the field name in the main document.

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Marvin Minsky asks:

>Is there a way to make invisible text that doesn't introduce a
>linefeed resulting from a paragraph break inside the invisible text?

Not sure I fully understand you question Marvin. However, I am assuming
that you do not wish the paras to cause a blank line in the printed
document, irrespective of how it looks on the screen. So a carriage return
at the end of a paragraph which is formatted 'Hidden Text' itself may have
escaped being so formatted. Select the paragraph mark and also format it as
Hidden Text. Hidden Paras do not print, hence do not cause a blank line.

A useful way of selecting paragraph marks (or new line marks) is to
double-click anywhere to the right of those marks (and I mean anywhere - no
need to be precise or wipe over them)!


Ron Goodhew, Engineering, University of Newcastle, NSW, 2308, Australia
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One of the real secrets of happiness is to be content with what you have



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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 07:54:49 +1000 (EST)
From: Word-Mac Moderator <mmacword>
To: word-mac@alsvid.scu.edu.au
Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: Re: WORD-MAC digest 284
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9403220741.B26226-0100000@alsvid.scu.edu.au>

done
rd

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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 07:56:32 +1000 (EST)
From: Word-Mac Moderator <mmacword>
To: word-mac@alsvid.scu.edu.au
Subject: RE: [Q] Word 5.1 and Extended Postscript (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9403220708.D26226-0100000@alsvid.scu.edu.au>


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Sender: David Carson <dcarson@microsoft.com>
Subject: RE: [Q] Word 5.1 and Extended Postscript

>Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 10:56:09 -0500
>From: Morris_Balamut@ins.com (Morris Balamut)
>To: word-mac@alsvid.scu.edu.au
>Subject: [Q] Word 5.1 and Extended Postscript
>Message-ID: <9403161556.AA29383@provider.ins.com>
>
>Hi,
>
>I have on many occasions printed a regular postscript file by opening it in
>Word and setting the style to postscript and then just printing.
>
>I recently received several files that Word insists on converting from
>EPS. I presume that the EPS files are extended postscript, is that accurate?
>
>My problem is that when Word is finished 'converting' the file all that
>appears in the window is some of the % header info. If I try and print
>the file all I get is some blank pages.
>
>Can Word handle EPS files? Is there a trick to it. I am further confused
>because one of the files was supposedly created with Word for Windows.
>
>I am using a PowerBook 165 with 7.1 and Word 5.1a.
>
>Can anyone help me?

Actually, EPS is a *sub* set of the PostScript language. If the file is
an EPS file (which I doubt in this case), you should get a description
image (not a PICT preview, but a description of what application
created it, its size, etc.) which you aren't getting. So, I think that
Word's EPS filter just *thinks* that it's an EPS file when it's
probably just a PostScript file created from Word for Windows (using
the PostScript driver).

Actually, EPS files can be created from any Windows application, but
that's another story.

If this is a plain PostScript file, I would suggest that you pick up a
utility called SendPS (or the LaserWriter Utility) in order to properly
send (download) these files to your printer. The method that you are
referring to with Word (and the PostScript Style) will work most of the
time, but remember that it's already gone through a printer driver
before and you're going to be adding other PS instructions when you
print it from Word which can cause problems (mainly PS errors on the
printer). The analogy that I draw with this situation is that it's like
adding a second layer of frosting to a cake that's already been
frosted. It turns out a little too sweet. Definately SendPS is the
utility that does this job the best.

David Carson
 Word Support


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