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[From Rick Marken (990502.1530)]

Me:

> That's because I think coercion is happening whenever a
> stronger person (like a parent) unilaterally decides what
> another person (like a kid) will do (even if what they decide
> the kid will do is something "nice"), without being willing
> to take into consideration what that other person might
> actually want.>

Kenny Kitzke (990502.1500EDT)

> So, you want to maintain that when a parent unilaterally decides
> that their kid will never smoke cigarettes and tells them so it
> is coercion, regardless of whether the parent knows or wants to
> know that the kid hates smoking, regularly demonstrates against
> Joe Camel at school and would rather drink poison than inhale a
> cigarette?

Yes. I would maintain that that is coercion. I presume you would
say that it's _not_ coercion. So let me ask you a similar question
as a consistency check:

So, you want to maintain that when a parent unilaterally decides
that their kid _will_ smoke and take drugs it is _not_ coercion
because, unbeknownst to the parent, who doesn't know and doesn't
want to know, the kid loves to smoke and takes drugs regularly?

Best

Rick
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