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TOC for Understanding Japanese Information Processing

#528
From: Chiaki Ishikawa
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1993 16:02
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I don't know much about what this JAPAN.INF is. So I may miss the
whole point, but I took a short look and am impressed with the
throughfullness and the wide coverage of topics.
Such a book? is a great introduction to anyone who is interested in
writing software for the Japanese market.

However, if the authors of this info (a book to be published?) has more time, I would suggest
a few things be incoporated into the content.

Here is what I would add to the content in diff form.

*** japan.inf.toc.original	Tue Jun 22 20:33:38 1993
--- japan.inf.toc	Tue Jun 22 21:10:15 1993
***************
*** 49,54 ****
--- 49,58 ----
  		The Structure of Kanji
  		The History of Kanji
  3: Japanese Character Set Standards
+ 	* Considering that Asian Character Set Standards and
+ Ineternational Character SEt STandards are mentioned in this chapter,
+ either the title of this chapter or the structure of the chapter might
+ need a rearranging. *
  	Non-electronic Character Set Standards
  	Electronic Character Set Standards
  		National Character Set Standards
***************
*** 68,73 ****
--- 72,78 ----
  	Non-electronic Versus Electronic Character Set Standards
  	Advice to Developers
  4: Japanese Encoding Methods
+ 	* Ditto.*
  	National Encoding Methods
  		ASCII/JIS-Roman Encoding
  		EBCDIC/EBCDIK Encoding
***************
*** 102,107 ****
--- 107,113 ----
  		Input by Multiple Criteria
  		Input by Encoded Value
  		Input by Postal Code
+ 	      * Input by Tcode. Tcode input software is mentioned elsewhere.*
  		Input by Association
  		In-line Conversion
  	Japanese Input Hardware
***************
*** 114,119 ****
--- 120,127 ----
  			New-JIS Array
  			Thumb-shift Array
  			50 Sounds Array
+ 	              * Typical or Popular keyboard such as Sun *
+ 	     	      * TRON Keyboard *
  		Roman Character Keyboard Arrays
  			M-style Array
  			High-speed Roman Array
***************
*** 129,135 ****
  		Outline Fonts
  		PostScript Fonts
  		TrueType Fonts
! 		Creating Your Own Fonts
  	Printer Output
  		PostScript Japanese Printers
  		Adobe Type Manager (ATM)
--- 137,143 ----
  		Outline Fonts
  		PostScript Fonts
  		TrueType Fonts
! 		Creating Your Own Fonts * Are you serious ? For all the chars? *
  	Printer Output
  		PostScript Japanese Printers
  		Adobe Type Manager (ATM)
***************
*** 138,143 ****
--- 146,152 ----
  	Computer Monitor Output
  	Vertically Set Japanese Text
  	External Character Handling
+ 		* I take this to mean `gaiji'. Is this correct ? *
  	Special Japanese Text Formatting Functions
  		Japanese Hyphenation
  		Japanese Justification
***************
*** 181,190 ****
--- 190,208 ----
  		Examining Japanese Text Files
  8: Japanese Text Processing Tools
  	Operating Systems and Operating System Extensions
+ 	      * I know that the proposed book? is meant for
+ 	        non-Japanese market, but it would be a disservice to
+ 		omit the mention of Japanese manufacturer's PCs. Among
+ 		others, NEC-PC and its DOS ought to be mentioned.
+ 		After all, this is THE PC in Japan. How it is
+ 		different from IBM PC is a good introduction to
+ 		Japanese PC market of today. *
  		IBM DOS J/V (IBM PC and Compatibles)
  		Microsoft Windows-J (IBM DOS J/V)
  		KanjiTalk and WorldScript II (Macintosh)
  		GomTalk7 (Macintosh)
+ 	      * SUN's JLE. No one can deny that Sun is more popular than
+ 	                  AIX or Irix in the Japanese market.  *
  		AIX (RISC System/6000)
  		Irix (SGI workstations)
  		PenPoint
***************
*** 214,224 ****
  		NJStar (MS-DOS)
  		Nisus & Solo Writer (KanjiTalk)
  		FrameMaker-J (UNIX)
! 		Dedicated Japanese Word Processors
  	Page Layout Software
  		Aldus PageMaker-J (Microsoft Windows-J or KanjiTalk)
  		Adobe Illustrator-J (KanjiTalk)
  		FrameMaker-J (UNIX)
  	On-line Dictionaries
  		JDIC (MS-DOS or IBM DOS J/V)
  		MacJDic (KanjiTalk)
--- 232,250 ----
  		NJStar (MS-DOS)
  		Nisus & Solo Writer (KanjiTalk)
  		FrameMaker-J (UNIX)
! 		Dedicated Japanese Word Processors * Like Ichitaro?
! 		that runs on DOS or are yolu talking about dedicated
! 		Word processor hardware?*
  	Page Layout Software
  		Aldus PageMaker-J (Microsoft Windows-J or KanjiTalk)
  		Adobe Illustrator-J (KanjiTalk)
  		FrameMaker-J (UNIX)
+ 	      * I now understand that this book is not intended to
+ cover non-commercial software, but Japanized version of TeX is pretty
+ popular among computer journals, and I heard that there was a project
+ for typesetting Japanese translation of Britannica using a
+ vertical-version of Japanized Tex! So why don't you at least
+ incorporate either NTT's version  or ASCII's verison of TeX here ? *
  	On-line Dictionaries
  		JDIC (MS-DOS or IBM DOS J/V)
  		MacJDic (KanjiTalk)
***************
*** 227,236 ****
--- 253,298 ----
  		XJDIC (UNIX)
  		Quick Viewer (IBM DOS J/V or KanjiTalk)
  		Translator's Apprentice (NeXTSTEP)
+ 	       * There seem to be a few new recent additions. I don't
+ 	         have much experience though. *
  	Machine Translation Software
  		PC-Transer (IBM DOS J/V)
  		EZ JapaneseWriter (MS-DOS or IBM DOS J/V)
  		TheTranslator (KanjiTalk)
+ 	      * The above except for PC-Transer (or was it Transor (sp)?)
+ 	        may be a joke. I mean there are full-fledged powerful
+ 	        translation systems available that run on EWS.
+ 		Case in point: Sharp DUET that runs on Sharp's UNIX
+ 		boxes. This particular product has probably the
+ 		largest customer base that consist of very serious users
+ 		such as divisions of DEC, Motorola, Olivetti, etc.
+ 		HP's EWS UNIX manuals have been translated by DUET and then
+ 		finished up by a editing agency.
+ 		PC-Transor's progenitor ran on Sun and other
+ 		workstations, but frankly I would vouch for Sharp's
+ 		commitment to user support and frequent bug fixes and
+ 		upgrades. Sharp's product has been in the market a lot
+ 		longer, and the serious users of DUET (including
+ 		myself) has given them many bug reports/sugestions, etc. which
+ 		Sharp promised to fix/incorporate in the product and
+ 		DUET is a very good system now.
+
+ 		Today's machine translation systems are only a support
+ 		tool that help human trnaslator's jobs. In this sense,
+ 		the user support is indispensable. The large user
+ 		group of Sharp's DUET and Sharp's commitment to
+ 		supporting its users is a big plus for this system.
+ 		Other companies such as Hitachi, Oki, Fujitsu and
+ 		others have some type of translation system going, but
+ 		the prototype systems or products don't match Sharp's
+ 		system's capability and Sharp's commitment to its product.
+ 		Many companies declined to respond to a request from a
+ 		translator's journal when the magazine featured a
+ 		special article comparing translation systems. Only a
+ 		few companies including Sharp were comfortable enough
+ 		with their products to answer the questions from the journal.
+ 		So I suggest you put in a section on Sharp DUET.
+ 		Be warned that Machine Translation (MT) is not a panacea. *
  	Terminal Software
  		YKH (MS-DOS or IBM DOS J/V)
  		KCom2 (MS-DOS or IBM DOS J/V)
***************
*** 238,243 ****
--- 300,308 ----
  		NinjaTerm (KanjiTalk)
  		Terminal-J (KanjiTalk)
  		kterm (UNIX)
+ 		* Why not include
+ 			- Japanized version of Kermit, and
+ 			- wterm popluar on DOS?
  9: Using Japanese E-mail and News
  	Sending Japanese E-mail
  	Posting Japanese News
***************
*** 260,265 ****
--- 325,331 ----
  		The JP Domain
  		Bitnet Sites in Japan
  	Getting Connected
+ * I would say the appendix will be very very useful! *
  A: Japanese Code Conversion Table
  B: JIS X 0208-1990 Table
  C: JIS X 0212-1990 Table

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