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Started by Sky
Wed, 23 Apr 2003 06:17
How to identify a computer one and only
Author: Sky
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 06:17
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 06:17
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hi all, i want use a dongle to encrypt my program, I want get a one and only identifier for computer, then combine it with some fixed code to verify, any hint? TIA. Sky
Re: How to identify a computer one and only
Author: Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:19
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:19
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"Sky" <akeehuang@163.net> wrote in message news:3ea6301a@newsgroups.borland.com... > hi all, i want use a dongle to encrypt my program, > I want get a one and only identifier for computer, > then combine it with some fixed code to verify, > any hint? TIA. There aren't any one-to-one unique identifiers for a computer, sorry. At least, none that are reliable for what you ask. This has been a long-standing issue with hardware-based identification for encryption and anti-piracy issues for years. The simply problem is that existing IDs are not generally constant values. The most common identifiers used are Ethernet card MAC addresses, CPU ID numbers, and HardDrive Serial Numbers. The main problems with those, however, is that 1) ethernet MAC addresses and HardDrive serial numbers are usually guaranteed to be unique only within a particular manufacturer but not across the entire industry, and if the ethernet card or harddrive is ever swapped out with a new one, you get new values and you lose your original ID; and 2) CPU IDs are only supported on newer CPUs within the last few years, and they can be (and usually are) disabled by the user in the motherboard BIOS setup at system startup before any software is ever run. Gambit
Re: How to identify a computer one and only
Author: Harm-Jan Zwinderman
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:01
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:01
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Remy Lebeau (TeamB) <gambit47@yahoo.com> wrote > > "Sky" <akeehuang@163.net> wrote > > hi all, i want use a dongle to encrypt my program, > > I want get a one and only identifier for computer, > > then combine it with some fixed code to verify, > > any hint? TIA. > > There aren't any one-to-one unique identifiers for a computer, sorry. At > least, none that are reliable for what you ask. This has been a > long-standing issue with hardware-based identification for encryption and > anti-piracy issues for years. The simply problem is that existing IDs are > not generally constant values. The most common identifiers used are > Ethernet card MAC addresses, CPU ID numbers, and HardDrive Serial Numbers. > The main problems with those, however, is that 1) ethernet MAC addresses and > HardDrive serial numbers are usually guaranteed to be unique only within a > particular manufacturer but not across the entire industry, and if the > ethernet card or harddrive is ever swapped out with a new one, you get new > values and you lose your original ID; and 2) CPU IDs are only supported on > newer CPUs within the last few years, and they can be (and usually are) > disabled by the user in the motherboard BIOS setup at system startup before > any software is ever run. > It seems he wants to use a dongle which you put in the printer port of the PC. The dongle contains the identifying key. I can imagine that using CreateFile, ReadFile the information in the dongle might get accessible? Am also curious on how to do that? At work we also use software protected with dongles. Only after putting the dongle in the printer port the printing process is not going well anymore.
Re: How to identify a computer one and only
Author: Sky
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 01:47
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 01:47
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Yes, I have used a dongle putted in the parallel port, but it need run only on one computer that has been licensed to, so i want get the one-to-one unique identifiers for computer, then combine it with some code in dongle. BTW Remy, could you tell me how to get the Ethernet card MAC addressed, CPU ID numbers and HardDrive Serial Numbers, Thanks in advance! Sky! "Harm-Jan Zwinderman" <HaloHalo@HotPOP.com> д����Ϣ���� :3ea6e2cf@newsgroups.borland.com... > > Remy Lebeau (TeamB) <gambit47@yahoo.com> wrote > > > > "Sky" <akeehuang@163.net> wrote > > > hi all, i want use a dongle to encrypt my program, > > > I want get a one and only identifier for computer, > > > then combine it with some fixed code to verify, > > > any hint? TIA. > > > > There aren't any one-to-one unique identifiers for a computer, sorry. At > > least, none that are reliable for what you ask. This has been a > > long-standing issue with hardware-based identification for encryption and > > anti-piracy issues for years. The simply problem is that existing IDs are > > not generally constant values. The most common identifiers used are > > Ethernet card MAC addresses, CPU ID numbers, and HardDrive Serial Numbers. > > The main problems with those, however, is that 1) ethernet MAC addresses > and > > HardDrive serial numbers are usually guaranteed to be unique only within a > > particular manufacturer but not across the entire industry, and if the > > ethernet card or harddrive is ever swapped out with a new one, you get new > > values and you lose your original ID; and 2) CPU IDs are only supported on > > newer CPUs within the last few years, and they can be (and usually are) > > disabled by the user in the motherboard BIOS setup at system startup > before > > any software is ever run. > > > It seems he wants to use a dongle which you put in the printer port of the > PC. > The dongle contains the identifying key. > I can imagine that using CreateFile, ReadFile the information in the dongle > might get accessible? > Am also curious on how to do that? > > At work we also use software protected with dongles. Only after putting the > dongle in the printer port the printing process is not going well anymore. > > >
Re: How to identify a computer one and only
Author: Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 03:42
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 03:42
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"Sky" <akeehuang@163.net> wrote in message news:3ea7422f$1@newsgroups.borland.com... > BTW Remy, could you tell me how to get the Ethernet > card MAC addressed, CPU ID numbers and HardDrive > Serial Numbers, All three of them require low-level assembly programming. Are you sure you're ready for that? If so, then go to http://www.deja.com and do a search through the archives for these newsgroups. Sample code has been posted many times before. Gambit
Re: How to identify a computer one and only
Author: Martin Moeller
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 10:57
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 10:57
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> but it need run only on one computer that has been licensed to, > so i want get the one-to-one unique identifiers for computer, Before you look after how to do it, are you sure about the legal aspect of your stricter licensing? If it is not, you are liable for any losses arising from such license restriction, such as work interruption due to computer failure. Check & be carefull! Rgds, Martin
Re: How to identify a computer one and only
Author: JD
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:15
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:15
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"Harm-Jan Zwinderman" <HaloHalo@HotPOP.com> wrote: > [...] Only after putting the dongle in the printer port the > printing process is not going well anymore. We too once had a device that plugged into the printer port with a pass-through for the printer (it was the Covox Speech Thing - a speech synthisizer in the MSDOS environment) and we also had printing problems. In the end it was determined that the problem was degridation of the signal due to the pass-through combined with long printer cables. As the output to a parallel printer travels down the cable, the signal degrades (which I presume is caused by bleeding and loss of signal strength). Consequently, standard parallel cables are manufactured to the presumed maximum length for reliable operation. The problem was solved by having a cabling company makes us some short printer cables. Obviousely one can't expect users to replace their printer cables so what's the solution when using a dongle? Well, I would imagine that the quality of construction would impact the signal so choose a vendor well. The only other thing that comes to mind is if there are serial dongles available (of which I have no clue). HTH ~ JD
Re: How to identify a computer one and only
Author: Bruce Salzman
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:54
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:54
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Aladdin makes a USB dongle that works well. Regards, Bruce
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