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I found an old post in the archives asking basically
the same thing, and the answer is no, it can't be done.

Since that seems to be the case, anyone happen to
know of a way to read beyond the current file's
length?

In essence the old version of the file was way bigger
than the new version. The drive it's on doesn't get
written to much, so most of the data should still
be there...

-Tom

"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Since that seems to be the case, anyone happen to
> know of a way to read beyond the current file's
> length?

You don't.  For what you are asking, you would need low-level access to the
underlying file system directly.

> In essence the old version of the file was way bigger
> than the new version. The drive it's on doesn't get
> written to much, so most of the data should still
> be there...

Use a third-party file recovery tool.


Gambit

> You don't.  For what you are asking, you would need low-level access to 
> the
> underlying file system directly.

Sorry I wasn't very clear, I should have stated if anyone knew a program
that allowed this. I haven't found one that allows reading beyond the 
current
files sector. I think I've found one called Omnixray, that appears to let me
save data from any sector.

If there are any other recommendations let me know.

Thanks,

Tom

    Hi Tom,

    I HIGHLY recommend 'Get Data Back NTFS' or 'Get Data Back FAT'
    from Runtime Software.

    I think their URL is http://www.runtime.org

    Very functional tool, if the data is on the drive to be recovered
    these tools will recover it.

    They had downloadable demos last I checked.

    HTH,

    Bruce

isn't your post OT and basically an AD?

"Bruce Larrabee" <bruce_l@westbrookent.com> ha scritto nel messaggio 
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>
>    Hi Tom,
>
>    I HIGHLY recommend 'Get Data Back NTFS' or 'Get Data Back FAT'
>    from Runtime Software.
>
>    I think their URL is http://www.runtime.org
>
>    Very functional tool, if the data is on the drive to be recovered
>    these tools will recover it.
>
>    They had downloadable demos last I checked.
>
>    HTH,
>
>    Bruce 

sorry, I was confused because I thought we were talking about a converter 
from obj to high level language (that none has done for what I know).
Tom, even if you manage to retrieve the data after the end of file it will 
be useless in my opinion...

"4N" <xxxx@yyyy.zzz> ha scritto nel messaggio 
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> isn't your post OT and basically an AD?
>
> "Bruce Larrabee" <bruce_l@westbrookent.com> ha scritto nel messaggio 
> news:455ef2f3$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>>
>>    Hi Tom,
>>
>>    I HIGHLY recommend 'Get Data Back NTFS' or 'Get Data Back FAT'
>>    from Runtime Software.
>>
>>    I think their URL is http://www.runtime.org
>>
>>    Very functional tool, if the data is on the drive to be recovered
>>    these tools will recover it.
>>
>>    They had downloadable demos last I checked.
>>
>>    HTH,
>>
>>    Bruce
>
> 

"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote:

>thing. Because it had been so long since I touched the project my backups 
>also contain
>the issue. My older backups are just that, older. We're talking 20-30 hours 
>of programming
>gone.

Ah, and you don't use a source repository?

May I suggest that, however you resolve this issue, in future you do
start to use a repository?

Alan Bellingham
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Alan,

Is there a way to have it interface with the IDE so that each time a build 
is done, the changes
files are added to the repository? That's been my biggest problem so far, is 
that I'll be plugging
along and dont' want to get interrupted to manually update files to a 
backup. Which is why I
went to a nightly backup, that archives about a week or so before it starts 
over.

-Tom

"Alan Bellingham" <alanb@episys.com> wrote in message 
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> "Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>thing. Because it had been so long since I touched the project my backups
>>also contain
>>the issue. My older backups are just that, older. We're talking 20-30 
>>hours
>>of programming
>>gone.
>
> Ah, and you don't use a source repository?
>
> May I suggest that, however you resolve this issue, in future you do
> start to use a repository?
>
> Alan Bellingham
> -- 
> Team Thai Kingdom
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"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote:

>Is there a way to have it interface with the IDE so that each time a build 
>is done, the changes
>files are added to the repository? That's been my biggest problem so far, is 
>that I'll be plugging
>along and dont' want to get interrupted to manually update files to a 
>backup. Which is why I
>went to a nightly backup, that archives about a week or so before it starts 
>over.

I personally, with BCB, manually pull a bunch of files out when I want
to edit them, and remember to put them back later. But there are ways to
configure the IDE to talk to a repository - I've just been too lazy to
get BCB to talk to VSS.

In the case of a different source repository, then the configuration
will be different. And a different IDE will be different too, but it's
usually doable.

Alan Bellingham
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"Tom" <tom@nospam.net> wrote in message 
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> Alan,
>
> Is there a way to have it interface with the IDE so that each time a build 
> is done, the changes
> files are added to the repository? That's been my biggest problem so far, 
> is that I'll be plugging
> along and dont' want to get interrupted to manually update files to a 
> backup. Which is why I
> went to a nightly backup, that archives about a week or so before it 
> starts over.

First, forget worrying about integration in the IDE.  If it is available, 
great.  But if not, don't let that stop you from using a revision control 
system.  The two most popular revision control systems are CVS 
(http://www.nongnu.org/cvs) and Subversion (http://subversion.tigris.org), 
both of which have Windows Explorer integration tools available, TortoiseCVS 
(http://www.tortoisecvs.org) and TortoiseSVN 
(http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org), respectively.

Second, you don't necessarily have to commit changes *every* time you do a 
build.  Instead, only commit changes when you've completed some unit of work 
that makes sense, like, for example, after adding a feature.

Third, using backups instead of revision control is cumbersome, provides you 
with practically zero history information, and is very dangerous.  They 
might be fine if your work isn't critical or if you never delete the 
backups, but as you've already discovered, if you use some kind of rotation 
scheme to save space, then you can easily lose information that you may 
never be able to get back.

Of course, once you have a revision control system in place, you should 
still keep nightly backups of your repository.  And you can safely rotate 
backups of your repository without ever losing any data.

- Dennis 

     Ah 4N,

 > 4N wrote...
 >
> isn't your post OT and basically an AD?
> 

    I don't believe my post qualifies as an ad,
    being as I'm in no way shape or form even
    peripherally connected with the product I
    recommended. On the other hand I am fairly
    familiar with this particular genre of
    software utilities.

    If my post appeared otherwise I hope that
    I have cleared that up...

    Any suggestions as to how to avoid giving
    that impression in my future posts will be
    read and considered...  B)

    HTH,

    Bruce

it was my fault for not recalling exactly what Tom asked in his second post, 
I apologised for that :)


"Bruce Larrabee" <bruce_l@westbrookent.com> ha scritto nel messaggio 
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>
>     Ah 4N,
>
> > 4N wrote...
> >
>> isn't your post OT and basically an AD?
>>
>
>    I don't believe my post qualifies as an ad,
>    being as I'm in no way shape or form even
>    peripherally connected with the product I
>    recommended. On the other hand I am fairly
>    familiar with this particular genre of
>    software utilities.
>
>    If my post appeared otherwise I hope that
>    I have cleared that up...
>
>    Any suggestions as to how to avoid giving
>    that impression in my future posts will be
>    read and considered...  B)
>
>    HTH,
>
>    Bruce 

    Hi all,

    If you're looking for a simple method it wouldn't take
    much to create a utility that just created a set of backup
    files at predetermined intervals... (I've even done stuff
    like with dos scripts, but I won't recommend that...)
    I know it's 'quick and dirty' but if the alternative
    looks like even less, well...

    I find this to be very useful in such situations also...

    // version string for development version...

    #define VERSION strcat( strcat( strcat( " Developement Version 2.2 - ", __DATE__), " - "), __TIME__)

    (it appears in the debug version headers)

    The CVS is a better idea of course...

    HTH,

    Bruce

Tom wrote:

>I opened a project today that I haven't touched since Oct 11th to make some 
>changes to find that unit1.cpp consisted of only php code! 

I would also suggest changing the unit names to something
application-specific at the first save.

Using generic unit names is asking for (this kind of) trouble, IMO.