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Article #11707Re: Poll: Borland must give us a free copy of JBuilder 3
From: Alexis R�os
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:00
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:00
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Just want to make a statement. I don't want to cause flame here, just showing some facts. The only thing Borland should've said from the beginning is that JBuilder 2 supports JDK 1.1.7, not JDK 1.2 like the box, manuals and web site said. Many people that I know bought the product for the 1.2 features, we really don't care anymore about 1.1.6 or 1.1.7 because is already deprecated, and we receive a handicapped product instead. To give you an example about what is a good advertisement just check this page on Symantec. Please read it.. not to compare the products just as a constructive customer service lesson.. http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/devtools.nsf/docid/1998112315523205 Nobody would be angry right now with Borland if they were able to publish a statement like the one Symantec did about their product with JBuilder 2. What happens with us, we purchased a product for some quality that was supposed to have and we are not able to use it, so we wasted our money for nothing. John Frazier (borland.com) <supportinfo@borland.com> wrote in message news:37232523.39848178@forums.inprise.com... > On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:40:43 -0400, "Alexis Rios" <alexr@coqui.net> > wrote: > > >We purchased JB2 because they (Borland) said that the product fully supports > >JDK 1.2 and it was a lie. So that is about $250.00 dollars to the trash can. > >I own JB2 and I am using the notepad to write my Java 2 programs, because if > >i do the same with JB2 the program will never run. > > > >If JB3 supports Java 2 finally, is the right thing to do for Borland, to > >give us at least a free JB3 version so we can be happy or I won't buy > >another Borland product ever. > > > >Tell your opinions, > > > >It's the truth and it's our money. Thanks for reading it > > This is not intended as a provocation or a flame of any type, just a > reality check. > > This message is a pure troll that serves for nothing more than to > provoke others to start a huge complaining session. It is a low > tactic and I know you are smart enough to know better. That is why I > answer like this: > > I think you've got to be kidding. If I bought a product that said it > would do something and it did, fine. But when there are underlying > factors like an ever-evolving JDK that neither Borland, you, or even > Microsoft have any control over, what can you honestly do? Borland > did NOT lie to you nor did they set out to deceive you in any way. It > has been stated literally more than a hundred times in these > newsgroups as to the specific reasons why the Java architecture > changed (i.e. Swing/debug api). Therefore it should be fairly simple > for you or anybody else to do a search on www.dejanews.com to get all > of the details. > > I leave you with a couple of thoughts to ponder. Would you ask your > local power company to provide you with free electrical products > because your equipment was designed for a different country's power > needs? Would you ask your automobile manufacturer to give you a new > sports utility off road vehicle for free because you moved to a place > out in the country and your street ride wasn't suited for it? Would I > ask the builder of my house to build me a new one for free because I > disliked the neighbors who moved in next door? > > I could go on for hours with analogies like these but I think you get > the idea. As a consumer myself, I would not expect free product > compensation and don't feel that you should realistically expect it > either. > > My point is that things change that are out of our control and as much > as we would love to give out free product left and right, we are a > business and must operate as such. There is also plenty of new > features and value to be had in the new version as well so it is not > just Java2 development that you have to look forward to. > > Thank You, > > John Frazier (borland.com) > > http://www.borland.com/devsupport/disclaim.html
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