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MASSENGALE MELANIE O (massenga@spot.Colorado.EDU) wrote:

: >mm> When you welcome women as equals, Boulder will welcome you.

: "Howzabout" not bashing Boulder, the host city.  I feel confident that Bill
: and his friends can defend themselves.  When the Jews and Muslims come to
: Boulder, making rude comments about the city while denouncing abortion rights,
: I'll be happy to take them on, too.   

You seem very upset about this if the issue is only that the Promise 
Keepers are saying "rude" things about Boulder.  Of course you fail to 
mention that Mr. McCartney and the group in general represent a group of 
men who hope to offer a much better solution than abortion.  They 
proclaim that sex was meant for procreation and the strengthening of a 
godly marriage, but was never intended to be a selfish act of 
sensuality.  They also proclaim that men in general need to follow 
through on promises made to their families and to in general be more 
responsible for the actions taken in relationships, including not 
allowing themselves to be tempted into sexual relations before there is 
any marriage commitment, therefore there would be no need for measures as 
extreme and deadly as abortion.

Men and women who have no self control have caused the entire abortion 
debate to be blown completely out of proportion.  If both sexes would 
learn to keep their pants on, then maybe we'd see what CHOICE really is.  
I'm extremely sick of people who say their right to choice is going to be 
eroded by making abortion illegal.  Of course, they forget to mention 
that they had a choice in the bedroom.  (Or was it the back of a car?)

I'm also not naieve enough to think that a blanket answer is the key, but 
the Promise Keepers have a viable and ALREADY WORKING plan for their 
lives regarding the issue of abortion.  Funny thing is, everyone is 
bashing them for being radicals.  Since when is waiting to have sexual 
relations with a person until they are legally commited to you so 
radical?  Used to happen in this country all the time.  Sad that we think 
it is so strange now.

Sober up, America.  As evidenced by the continuous flaming on Usenet, and 
the promiscuous sexual sensuality craze that this country is in, we no 
longer care about each other in this country.  All we care about is 
ourselves.  Is someone invading *MY* rights today?  Is someone 
disagreeing with *ME*?  I use the examples of the Usenet and sexuality 
just because they fit the topics in this message.  There are obviously 
many more pieces of evidence to support this position.

Volunteer in an area where you care and let others be free.  This is the 
*United* States of America, isn't it?  I don't yell and scream on Usenet 
every time a Bronco game snarls traffic in both directions on I-25, just 
because it inconvieniences me.  Maybe I'm a football fan, maybe I'm not, 
but I certainly didn't want that traffic jam that resulted.  Stuff 
happens.  

My point is this:  It sure is easy to stir up hate and discontent.  ANYONE
can do that.  Peacemakers are few and far between these days.  My hope is
to be a peacemaker, as *most* of the Promise Keepers hope to do also. 

"Judge every man by the fruit he produces."  Right?

People with self-control enough to make things better who have morals 
that require them to put others before themselves *are* the answer to 
making the U.S. a good place to live.  I've gotten flipped off on the 
Interstate twice in one week for driving normally.  At no time did I 
endanger anyone, cut off anyone, or do anything reckless, but I may have 
caused someone going well over the speed limit in both cases to slow down 
because I needed to be in their lane to make a turn.  I don't drive the 
speed limit (and my driving record shows this) but I also don't expect 
others to speed up just because I want to go fast.  There's a big 
difference, and I think it illustrates the change in our way of thinking 
as a society.  We want anyone who will slow down *our* beliefs to kindly 
move aside.  We have no respect for what we might learn from them.

Anyway, I hope this post made some sense to someone.  My plea is that we 
all be a little more tolerant of each other.  The Golden Rule has always 
been the best course of action ever taught.  It's funny.  People flame 
others on Usenet and then don't want those others to flame them back and 
get *really* insulted when they do.  

Americans have a case of the selfishness disease as they have never had 
before.  Will it end with you?  I think that is what the Promise Keepers 
are really asking every year in Boulder.  Dropping the peripheral 
arguments and complaints and I really think that is what they represent.

Take care and Best Regards to all.

-- 
Nathan N. Duehr - nduehr@netcom.com

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