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Re: Promise Keeper's might stay

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From: Nathan N. Duehr
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 13:30
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Dick Dunn (rcd@raven.eklektix.com) wrote:
: nduehr@netcom.com (Nathan N. Duehr) writes:
: >...If the CU planners
: >had put enough parking for their stadium in, there probably wouldn't be so
: >many complaints about parking problems, right?  Admittedly, Promise
: >Keepers had an obligation to check into these things beforehand, but I
: >think that their gathering grew faster than they were planning. 

: DUH.
: If they screwed up the planning, they screwed up, period.  Nobody else's
: fault.  If the venue can handle <n> people, all things considered, then you
: don't sign up more than <n> people.  If you do, you blew it; don't pass the
: buck.  It's not CU's obligation to provide parking for non-CU events.  PK
: had trouble last year because (among other things) they draw a significant
: number of folks who have no regard for laws or the needs of the community
: in which they're guests.  It's tough for PK to deal with that, but they must.

Um, I would almost bet money that CU had to know how many people PK had 
signed up or at least had a good estimate.  Should not CU have turned PK 
away if their parking situation would not handle the number of 
cars/people expected.  In a blue moon, CU might do such a thing.  I think 
it shows that CU wants PK's MONEY more than they care about the community 
of Boulder.  PK shares blame in a case of overcrowding but CU is 
definitely at fault here as well.  (Please note my other post regarding 
the Intervarsity Christian Fellowship's annual convention at the 
University of Illinois - Urbana, IL)

: Different sorts of events require different amounts of parking...it depends
: on the number of people per car and such.

Exactly.  CU built a stadium designed to handle many more people than 
their parking space will allow.  They built a stadium for CAMPUS events 
and rent it out to non-campus users like PK.  They have no experience 
with a group this big and yet they want the revenue.  Meanwhile the city 
of Boulder is victimized by CU's poor planning of such an event.

-- 
Nathan N. Duehr - nduehr@netcom.com

Pvt. Pilot, N0NTZ (ham), Pikes Peak 120 (CAP), AOPA 01119032-9 (Joined 1992)
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