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Re: IDF officer discharged for insulting Conservative and Reform Judaism( soc.culture.jewish)

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From: Simcha Streltsov
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 00:00
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Joel N. Shurkin (joel@nasw.org) wrote:

: have been written that blacks have lower IQs than whites (in fact, they
: average 15% below whites on IQ tests). The captain points that out and
: concludes that therefore blacks are mentally inferior. (The fact they
...
: And, incidentally, the opinion is not serious and is not informed. It is
: ignorant and biased--not a lot different than the soldier in my example.
: And just as insulting.

well, if I were a black student in this audience, I would point out -
right there - that IQ is not a full measure, and IQ of a group does 
not identify IQ of each person, and IQ in the army is based on army
selection [and AFAIK from my work, army has their own aptitude tests
different from IQ]. I could phrase it as a question if needed. Then,
the dumb lecturer would have to apologize or start shouting at me 
personally - thus, giving a real reason to be dismissed.

but if he would have said, hypothetically, that IQ  of blacks are 15 _points_
lower, and IQ is a standard army test, and average passing score for blacks
is lower than whites - would you still dismiss him? 

again, all of this in response to a remark by a black activist that
there is no difference in how blacks and whites do the job.

: I don't know the exact circumstances of the question but he most surely
: should have kept his mouth shut. Whether he3 should have been fired or

so, Joel, you are an officer in an Israeli army giving a lecture on human rights -
and the recent Russian ole says - Soviet Communist party did a lot of
good things for Jews - they made Jews equal and they gave them Russian
education, one of the best educations in the world. Or a recent South
African ole says that the apartheid was good to the Jews where they made
good living in business & politics, and now they are being pushed
away by the black gangsters. assuming you disagree with any of the
above, your response is ...?
 



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Simcha Streltsov		disclaimer, as requested by Mo-he S-rr
simchastr@juno.com		all punctuation marks in this article
http://cad.bu.edu/go/simon	are equivalent to (-: 

            
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From: simon1@bu.edu (Simcha Streltsov)
Subject: Re: IDF officer discharged for insulting Conservative and Reform Judaism( soc.culture.jewish)
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