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Article #463Re: Creeks and Sprawl (was: An example of how zealots . . .)
From: Dan Pritchett - SunSoft Engineer
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1992 21:58
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1992 21:58
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In article <1992Jun8.173622.4035@clipper.ingr.com>, fenwick@clipper.ingr.com (Stephen Fenwick) writes:
|> Sorry, folks; I'll buy an electric car, but cycling isn't an option.
|> Public transit could be, but the bus system in this part of Palo Alto
|> is a mess.
|>
While I support public transportation, I would not use it to argue as
a time savings versus cycling. I shower twice/day when I drive to work or
when I ride. So bathing time is mute. The bus averages somewhere around
13 mph over most commuter paths. I average better than 15 mph on my bike.
That is real end to end elapsed time, not what the speedometer rides at
some instance. So in most cases a fit cyclist can arrive sooner. An unfit
rider can probably equal or only do slightly worse.
|> I think you add at least one (and probably two) showering occasions.
|>
Well maybe, but that is personal. As I stated above that it is not usually
the case for me. If I drive I shower before I leave for work, and before
bed. If I ride I shower at work and when I arrive home, unless I'm going
to be doing grungy work anyway in which case I push it off until before
bed. Two showers regardless, but like I said, it is a personal choice.
|> I'll add some fuel to the fire, although a bit of a leap from the
|> charter of ba.transportation: what is the expected lifespan of the
|> human conciousness; that is, how many years of mental clarity can one
|> expect to have? It's not affected by diet, as far as I can tell
|> (except for extremes of drug consumption), although the mother's
|> diet may affect the formation of the myelin sheath over the nerves.
|> Exercise certainly doesn't seem to be a factor. So the question is,
|> if everyone in the country started a healthy diet and exercise regimen
|> that enabled them to live to 100, would they cease to be concious
|> humans at 75/85/95? What does that do to our burden on limited
|> planetary resources?
|>
Well there are lots of people that are perfectly coherent in the ages
you use as examples, and there are plenty that are incoherent at 31
(and some of them are licensed to drive). I'm not sure I'm following
the point or that there are even sufficient facts to support the point.
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