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Re: Creeks and Sprawl (was: An example of how zealots . . .)

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From: Eric House
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1992 16:09
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In article <SLAGLE.92Jun3235820@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com> slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com writes:

> Still, I am not opposed to the
>building of more bikeways,

I don't want bikeways (if you mean bikepaths); I just want roads built
with wider outer lanes and then I want those lanes maintained and kept
clean.

>if you can figure out how to make the
>bikers pay for them.  

Would it be ok if we paid for them the same way we pay for roads now: through
sales and income and property tax?  I wouldn't object to paying a bike
registration fee that went toward maintenance, policing and other costs
provided it was proportional to the damage my bike did to the roads.

>I like bicycles.  I even have one.  But I'd
>like to keep my car, too, if that's OK with you.
>--

Nobody wants to take your car away.  All I want is to stop paying taxes
so that everyone -- me included -- gets to drive for cheap.  Lots of SOVs
running about at random is an extremely inefficient way to move large
numbers of people, and it seems to follow that if inefficient it also
ought to be more expensive.  I'd still use a car for family vacations
and the like even if I were paying my own way.

(BTW, I recently attended a presentation by someone from Transportation
Alternatives in NYC where the claim was made that in Manhattan gas would
have to be taxed up to $10/gallon before autos began to pay their own
way.  This is primarily because of the high cost of the land on which
parking structures and such are built: the figure for the whole of New
York State was more on the order of $4/gallon.  He promised to send the
numbers to me when they're complete, at which time I'll post them here
and we can play yet another round of "how much is that subsidy."
-- 
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Eric House			"My employer doesn't share its opinions with
			   	 me, so I can share only mine with you"
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Subject: Re: Creeks and Sprawl (was: An example of how zealots . . .)
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