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Article #491Re: Expansion of I-80 in Berkeley; Bart
From: Jym Dyer
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1992 20:47
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1992 20:47
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> according to memory, the Berkeley freeway is ranked as
> the first- or second-most congested road in California.
=o= According to Caltrans' own research (which Mike Vandeman
has posted here before), widening freeways does *not* alleviate
congestion. It simply makes the congestion bigger.
=o= And if you'd like to see this in action, just head south
a bit, to the newly-expanded part of I-880.
> The population density doesn't appear to be high enough to
> support efficient mass rail transit: the Bart can't ever hope
> to achieve the general usefulness of the Manhattan subway
> system, for example.
=o= BART works pretty well, though the plethora of other systems
of public transportation diminish its effectiveness. The
interconnectivity one sees with, say, the MBTA in the Boston
area would be most welcome here (though if that would mean that
the quality of management would drop to that of the weakest
link -- AC Transit -- that would be a big lose).
<_Jym_>
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