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Re: Understanding Automakers EV Perspective

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From: Will Stewart
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 00:00
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In <4csd1h$6k3@spectator.cris.com> grep@cris.com (George B) writes: 
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>will1000@ix.netcom.com (Will Stewart ) wrote:
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>>I
>>Who is the 'WE'?  There are batteries in development that have shown
to
>>have ranges over 200 miles for Taurus-sized vehicles.  Recharges are
>>also shown to be less that 90 minutes with many batteries.
>
>Oh, knock it off.  Yes, on a test sled in warm weather over a flat
>test course with no accessories, give us a break. 

Again, George, you're in sci.* groups, not talk radio.

Visit http://nesea.nrel.gov/email8.html and look under the range
categories for the Solectria Sunrise.  This was a race with a real car.

>If 200 mile range
>EV's with 90min refuel time were commonly available we would see them
>on the road if they cost less than an Italian import. You say that
>they are "in development". I have news: Most things "in development"
>never get developed.

Do you drive a horse and buggy?

>Most batteries weaken significantly over several discharge/charge
>cycles. The performance will not improve with age, is what I think he
>ment.

Ok, agreed.

>>The amount of pollution they give off in the city environment is
>>negligible compared to ICEVs.

>Prove it.

Err, ok.  Measure the tailpipe output.  Ummm, no tailpipe?  Oh...

>A 1996 gasoline vehicle
>does produce a couple ppm of CO but a woodstove is much worse.

Some woodstoves.  Current sales of woodstoves must meet EPA #1900.
Of course, I'm sure you don't use gasoline to heat your home, and an
oil furnace is going to have far more pollutants anyway.  Compare
apples and apples.

>>Please provide your references ('I read it in a news post' does not
>>count for much).

>But you rarely produce references to back YOUR claims.

Don't try to toss me your hot potato.  Your claims were;

Odd, your previouspost has been canceled.  From pieces in other posts;

[EVs utilizing electricity generated by coal-burning plants]
>>would produce as much CO2 (greenhouse effect, global warming) and
>>other pollutants as gasoline does...

What are you sources for this information?  Again, this isn't talk
radio...

Visit http://www.calstart.org/reference/papers/emission.html to see
numbers that show you to be off by more than double.

Cheers,

Will Stewart
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From: will1000@ix.netcom.com (Will Stewart )
Subject: Re: Understanding Automakers EV Perspective
Date: 1996/01/09
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