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Article #6188Re: Understanding Automakers EV Perspective
From: Will Stewart
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 00:00
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 00:00
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In <4csd1h$6k3@spectator.cris.com> grep@cris.com (George B) writes:
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>will1000@ix.netcom.com (Will Stewart ) wrote:
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>>I
>>Who is the 'WE'? There are batteries in development that have shown
to
>>have ranges over 200 miles for Taurus-sized vehicles. Recharges are
>>also shown to be less that 90 minutes with many batteries.
>
>Oh, knock it off. Yes, on a test sled in warm weather over a flat
>test course with no accessories, give us a break.
Again, George, you're in sci.* groups, not talk radio.
Visit http://nesea.nrel.gov/email8.html and look under the range
categories for the Solectria Sunrise. This was a race with a real car.
>If 200 mile range
>EV's with 90min refuel time were commonly available we would see them
>on the road if they cost less than an Italian import. You say that
>they are "in development". I have news: Most things "in development"
>never get developed.
Do you drive a horse and buggy?
>Most batteries weaken significantly over several discharge/charge
>cycles. The performance will not improve with age, is what I think he
>ment.
Ok, agreed.
>>The amount of pollution they give off in the city environment is
>>negligible compared to ICEVs.
>Prove it.
Err, ok. Measure the tailpipe output. Ummm, no tailpipe? Oh...
>A 1996 gasoline vehicle
>does produce a couple ppm of CO but a woodstove is much worse.
Some woodstoves. Current sales of woodstoves must meet EPA #1900.
Of course, I'm sure you don't use gasoline to heat your home, and an
oil furnace is going to have far more pollutants anyway. Compare
apples and apples.
>>Please provide your references ('I read it in a news post' does not
>>count for much).
>But you rarely produce references to back YOUR claims.
Don't try to toss me your hot potato. Your claims were;
Odd, your previouspost has been canceled. From pieces in other posts;
[EVs utilizing electricity generated by coal-burning plants]
>>would produce as much CO2 (greenhouse effect, global warming) and
>>other pollutants as gasoline does...
What are you sources for this information? Again, this isn't talk
radio...
Visit http://www.calstart.org/reference/papers/emission.html to see
numbers that show you to be off by more than double.
Cheers,
Will Stewart
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