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In article <3uelmm$d61@hprcl192.mayfield.hp.com> jorgensons@mayfield.hp.com (Scott Jorgenson) writes:

>Patrick J. Chicas (pjc@aloha.net) wrote:

>: Face it Dave, you lost.. The Desert Protection Act had a thorough history of
>: being unpopular with the public.

>Just curious, but by what measure do you recall that the CDPA was unpopular
>with the public?  I recall that, within California, polls found the percentage
>of citizens in support of the CDPA to hover around the 70% mark for years. 
 
It would be very interesting to know what the same pollsters predicted before 
the last Republican landslide.  As it stands in history, the bill was 
presented for *years* without success.

When the CDPA did pass, It rode in on the backs of Di-Fi and Boxer. And as I 
remember, a tribute to the Al "The Bank Crook" Cranston. In reflection the 
Democrats soundly lost the vote in the affected regions in the most recent 
elections. Looking back to the 7 year long struggle, I personally attended 
numerous rallies and a Senate Hearing were CDPA supporters were outnumbered 15 
to 1. Of course, the hearing and the rallies were held in the Desert areas and 
not in the Bay Area or Metro LA.. 

>(Sorry, but I can't provide a reference.  Of course, these polls ranged 
>throughout the state's citizenry, not just among the ORV crowd, or the 
>dozen-odd grazing permittees affected by the Mojave designation.)

Sir, you clearly admit your comments are without reference. Putting a 
what may appear to be a bias on them only detracts from your position.

> + Wilderness and park boundaries were gerrymandered to preserve current 
>   mining claims and access roads.

>Etc.  I don't understand how "draconian" fits the bill here.

What was the last acerage count?  6,000,000 to 7,000,000 million I believe...
Some areas so vast that *no man* would ever see the interior. Why so much?

>: Before you rant and rave, I'll insert the following reference to my beliefs.

>: -I'm all for expansion of present NP's in the Mojave.
>: -I'd love to see Mitchell Caverns and a few other sites as NP sites.
>: -The Kelso Depot should receive some form of funding as a historic site.

>Read and understood, so please don't consider this a "rant-and-rave".

Very good, thanks..

Just a thought...  I'll be the main-line enviro groups could purchase
or contribute towards the management of some wonderful parcels of land for 
preservation by setting aside just a portion of the money they spend on 
campaign contributions.  


    Now, just watch what good 'ol "Race Car" Dave Wheeler will say.. I'll bet 
    "woof woof" Bashford chimes in as well. And Doug, before you start your 
    normal "hate the ditto-head" diatribe, please notice that "Rush Limbaugh"
    isn't referenced once in my dialouge.

Regards

Pat

<http://www.aloha.net/~pjc>