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In ca.environment Mark.O.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark.O.Wilson) said: 
 
 
>In article <3oojen$2eg@inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com>, Rick Herrick says...

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>>Mining interests don't consider leaving a gaping 
>>scar in the mountains as a cost. 
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>If it's their land. So what? 
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Often times it is our land. Mining is often done on federally owned land
that has been leased to mining companies at a cost far below the actual
value.  
 
The cost of environmental destruction has been historically undervalued and
externalized. Many companies do not consider the  price  enough to warrent
caring for the land. This is a problem in the valuation of the land. The
free market will argue that if it were more valuable it would be priced
higher. I argue that if I promote the notion that the environment is a
value this will increase demand and therefore price. 
 
 
 
>>Timber companies don't consider eroded bald mountains 
>>to be a cost. 
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>If it's their land, so what? 
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If they try and sell the land one should not pay as much for it. When one
sells land with trees on it  we should charge more for it (in particular
when the land is owned by the government). If we recycle and buy produts
that are recycled this will increase the demand for recycled products. If
we buy products made out of alternative paper sources this will increase
the demand for the alternatives. If we as a society begin to equate the
environment and the economy it shall be so.  
 
 
 
 
>>Farming interests in the Midwest don't consider the loss of millions 
>>of tons of topsoil annually to be a cost 
> 
>Actually farmers do consider it a cost, which is why they try to avoid it.
But  
>anyway, the farmers are the ones bearing the cost of this cost. 
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As it should be. It should be passed on to the consumer. They should also
pay the cost of the increased health care due to any use of pesticides. At
this point they do not. 
 
>>So is requiring a timber company to restore forestlands fair? 
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>If it is their land, it is not fair. 
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But it is certainly fair to say that I consider their land to be worthless.