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>>As a matter of fact, there is one (and only one) private park for 
>>motorcycle use near me.  It is closely monitored by Marin County's 

Who says the public owes you a motorcycle playground? There are thousands 
of miles of public roads you can ride on. There is no "right" to ride
off-road, and there are many environmental laws that it violates.

>>The point of my request was to focus attention on the cavalier attitude 
>>of the previous poster who was quite certain that there were ample 
>>opportunities for off-road motorists to do their thing.  That is the same 

It's true: they are called "roads".

>>It helps, too, to be reminded that none of us have a right to run public
>>land as though it were our private property, ignoring the wishes of other
>>segments of the public.  If it's public, it needs to be managed with the
>>broad range of public interests in mind.  Cooperation, rather than
>>coercion, is the key to longterm protection of our varied interests. 
 
There is another term for cooperation in illegal activity: conspiracy.
Where is it written that EVERYone's hobbies have to be supported on
public lands? I want to do bulldozer racing. Why can't I? To be fair,
you can't exclude me. None of you Wise Abusers have been able to answer
that.

>>: But I'm disturbed by your attitude. You don't deny that ORV's are
>>: destructive to the desert. 
>
>Answering Eric's remark (not Eric)..
>
>In the early 1980's I actively raced motorcycles in the Desert. At that time, 
>individual races were held almost every weekend. Most often in different areas
>and on different routes. Generally, routes were re-used once a year to some 
>degree. Many of these routes when left alone for as little as 8 months 
>revealed no sign of previous travel.  Ribbons had to be placed to 

Then you didn't look, or iddn't know what to look for. It takes decades,
if not centuries, for desert lands to recover from ANY physical disturb-
ance such as motorcycling or bicycling. That is well known.