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In article <pjc.128.2EA209CB@aloha.net> pjc@aloha.net (Patrick J. Chicas) writes:

Mr. Chicas is from Hawaii, the state with more endangered species than any
other, as well as the greatest number of recently extinct species. That explains
the following ravings.

>>> There is no "right" to ride
>>>off-road, and there are many environmental laws that it violates.
>
>Who's laws Mr. Vandeman? Your's no Doubt!
 
Federal & state laws that you probably never heard of, like the Endangered
Species Act.

>>        There is a right to the pursuit of happiness and there is no law
>>that specifically forbids riding off road. There are many areas that
>>have been closed to ORV use however.
>
>Mike, Mr. Vandeman has flatly stated that ORV's should be banned.
>He is a extreme environmentalist in the most kind words. Anti-human
>in common statements. 
 
That's a common way that anti-environmentalists try to divert the
discussion away from the facts to attack the messenger. Criticizing
some human behaviour doesn't make one anti-human, any more than a
policeman who pulls you over for speeding, or a judge who puts you in
jail for violations of the ESA is anti-human.

>>        Because you aren't a bulldozer racer and have no intention of
>>bulldozer racing. 
>
>No, but I'll bet he commutes 40+ miles each day to Pac Bell Hq. Of
>course he could live closer, but I doubt it.. What is it Mr. Vandeman? Are
>you a hyporcrate again?

I do commute that far -- by public transit. So what? Pac Bell moved its
HQ after I started working for them.

Thank you for your astute contribution to sci.environment.