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Re: "Ecofascists" In Action

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From: Steven Michnick
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1992 04:49
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In article <Buy58M.2zA@quake.sylmar.ca.us> brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder) writes:
>In article <1992Sep21.040119.12076@morrow.stanford.edu> mich@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Steven Michnick) writes:
>>>Come on now!  What they are doing is destroying property which does not belong
>>>to them, and trying to egdanger the lives of loggers.  You are rationalizing
>>>the criminal behavior of people who want to control resources by violence 
>>>rather than by consent.  These folks are criminals.  It matters not what cause
>>>they are comiting their crime in the name of.
>
>>Let me get this straight, you are trying to say that a logging company owns
>>a tree that is at least 200 years old?  How did they get there to plant the
>>forest?  If they own it they must have planted the trees.  I have trouble
>>believing that.......
>
>What a pathetic argument!  I didn't build the computer I am using right now.
>Does that mean that I cannot own it?  I did not breed any dogs.  Does that
>mean that I cannot own one?  I did not collect interstellar dust into any
>planets, does that mean that I cannot own any rocks or land?  
>
>An argument does not consist of just writing the first thing that comes into
>your mind on a given subject.  It would be nice if it made sense.
>
>--Brian
>
>
>

Flame away... in most of your examples money was paid for items you mentioned.
Also a certain amount of responsibility is included with the ownership.

Problem with the trees you consider property is that nobody paid for them
certainly not the lumber companies logging on "public" lands.  Even when
ownership can be declared in some cases the part of responsiblity is neglected.

Furthermore, the fact that you didn't bring together the comsic forces to make
the planet is exactly why you don't own any of it.  At best you are lucky enoughto be able to use it for a little while before you expire and the earth remains.

Steve
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