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Article #975Re: Indian v Western Civilization: Are we stupid, or what?
From: Day Brown
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 03:15
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 03:15
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Gatos Loco wrote: > Maybe it will be diminished if we destroy enough with it. In turn > destroying sociatal infrastructure and thus the means of creating it. > So to some extent I suppose it would be possible. Maybe. Why if primitive tribes were violent, would we not be if reduced to their level. Anthropology, zoology, psychology, and archaeology are converging on the phenomena of the Alpha male, so named from field studies of primates. We have the video of alpha male chimps organizing a gang to go out and find a foraging couple in an adjacent territory. They murder him and any progeny she has, then gang rape her while they kidnap her and add her to their own harem. Chimps have wars with neighboring groups, and the alpha males commit what we call 'domestic abuse' within their own group. Alphaism is handed down on the Y Chromosome. Behaviorism does not work. the assumption that Skinnerian techniques in the schools to prevent violence and produce humane adults are insufficient. But then, we have the example of the Bonobo; the chimp groups are run by a streetgang; the bonobo groups are run by an elder sisterhood. Bonobos dont kill and eat other monkeys, they dont war with other groups, and nobody gets raped. There's no 'domestic abuse' and no violent struggle among alpha males for dominance. The problem is not the religion or the politics or the customs; if the alpha males rule, they will engage in violence. If the sisterhood does, as we've seen in the Chalcolithic matriarchies, there is peace. Bonobos have sex a dozen times a day. There are two forces to control the action of men: sex or violence. Pick one; the negative re-inforcement of violence, or the positive re-inforcement of sex. Sex changes the brain chemistry; guys that get laid more when women are in charge, dont want to change the system. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---
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