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6 total messages Started by jswatson Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:54
California Oil Production and Prop 87?
#725
Author: jswatson
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:54
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I'm curious to know how many barrels of oil does California take out of
the earth every year?
And what percentage of energy does that represnet in what California
uses:
90%?, 95%, 99%?  Or more like 1%, 5%, 10%?

I'm just wondering, because Al Gore and Barbara Boxer, amoung others,
says that if Prop 87 passes, California will be energy independent from

foreign oil producers.

I wonder if this included Texas.  Or Canada? :-)

So I'm wondering how close this is to being anywhere near the truth ...
or does this more show that they never saw a tax they didn't like?

If I had some feel for how much oil California produces, verses how
much
we import, it might give me a feel for how close we are to becoming
energy independent
anytime soon.

I notice that every major newspaper in CA has come out against Prop 87,
even the San Francisco Chronicle.

And does this "independence from foreign oil" they speak of, factor in
population growth
and the therefore increase in energy requirements of California?

Seems like that is always what they forget about in these little
"energy independence"
schemes of theirs: that California is growing by about 500,000 people
every year.
Re: California Oil Production and Prop 87?
#726
Author: Chuck Whealton
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:42
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jswatson@yahoo.com wrote:
> I'm curious to know how many barrels of oil does California take out of
> the earth every year?
> And what percentage of energy does that represnet in what California
> uses:
> 90%?, 95%, 99%?  Or more like 1%, 5%, 10%?
>
> I'm just wondering, because Al Gore and Barbara Boxer, amoung others,
> says that if Prop 87 passes, California will be energy independent from
>
> foreign oil producers.
>
> I wonder if this included Texas.  Or Canada? :-)
>
> So I'm wondering how close this is to being anywhere near the truth ...
> or does this more show that they never saw a tax they didn't like?
>
> If I had some feel for how much oil California produces, verses how
> much
> we import, it might give me a feel for how close we are to becoming
> energy independent
> anytime soon.
>
> I notice that every major newspaper in CA has come out against Prop 87,
> even the San Francisco Chronicle.
>
> And does this "independence from foreign oil" they speak of, factor in
> population growth
> and the therefore increase in energy requirements of California?
>
> Seems like that is always what they forget about in these little
> "energy independence"
> schemes of theirs: that California is growing by about 500,000 people
> every year.

Well, this report tells you everything you want to know about
California oil production except (unless I missed it) what percentage
of California's own energy needs it safisfies.  I had no idea
California produced so much oil.  They rank fourth in the United States
in production behind Louisiana, Texas, and Alaska.

ftp://ftp.consrv.ca.gov/pub/oil/annual_reports/2005/0101summary1_05.pdf

Charles R. Whealton
Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
Re: California Oil Production and Prop 87?
#727
Author: jswatson
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:39
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Thanks,
that report roughly corresponds to another I found on CA Production,
which stated:

California Oil Production
(From http://www.energy.ca.gov/oil/index.html):
"Crude oil production in California averaged 731,150 barrels per day in
2004" (0.73 millioin bbl/day)
"4.7 percent from 2003"

I did a rough calculation of CA consumption based on:
    CIA WOrld Factbook:
    For the  USA:
   Oil - consumption:
   20.03 million bbl/day (2003 est.)

And
California Population: 36,132,147 (Wikipedia).
US Population: 300,327,03

Assuming Californians are use about the same about of oil as
the rest of USAians, that means :

CA Population as a percentage of US  is 0.12031
Since California is 12.03% of the US Population, we can guesstimate
that California uses 12.03%
of the Oil consumed in the US, therefore about 2.41 million bbl/day.

So California uses roughly 3.3 times more oil every day than it
produces.


On Oct 11, 3:42 pm, "Chuck Whealton" <chuck_wheal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> jswat...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I'm curious to know how many barrels of oil does California take out of
> > the earth every year?
> > And what percentage of energy does that represnet in what California
> > uses:
> > 90%?, 95%, 99%?  Or more like 1%, 5%, 10%?
>
> > I'm just wondering, because Al Gore and Barbara Boxer, amoung others,
> > says that if Prop 87 passes, California will be energy independent from
>
> > foreign oil producers.
>
> > I wonder if this included Texas.  Or Canada? :-)
>
> > So I'm wondering how close this is to being anywhere near the truth ...
> > or does this more show that they never saw a tax they didn't like?
>
> > If I had some feel for how much oil California produces, verses how
> > much
> > we import, it might give me a feel for how close we are to becoming
> > energy independent
> > anytime soon.
>
> > I notice that every major newspaper in CA has come out against Prop 87,
> > even the San Francisco Chronicle.
>
> > And does this "independence from foreign oil" they speak of, factor in
> > population growth
> > and the therefore increase in energy requirements of California?
>
> > Seems like that is always what they forget about in these little
> > "energy independence"
> > schemes of theirs: that California is growing by about 500,000 people
> > every year.Well, this report tells you everything you want to know about
> California oil production except (unless I missed it) what percentage
> of California's own energy needs it safisfies.  I had no idea
> California produced so much oil.  They rank fourth in the United States
> in production behind Louisiana, Texas, and Alaska.
>
> ftp://ftp.consrv.ca.gov/pub/oil/annual_reports/2005/0101summary1_05.pdf
>
> Charles R. Whealton
> Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
Re: California Oil Production and Prop 87?
#728
Author: Lloyd Parker
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:40
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In article <1160603679.948882.9890@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
   jswatson@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>I'm curious to know how many barrels of oil does California take out of
>the earth every year?
>And what percentage of energy does that represnet in what California
>uses:
>90%?, 95%, 99%?  Or more like 1%, 5%, 10%?
>

Irrelevant, as CA oil is co-mingled with TX oil, Kuwaiti oil, etc.  It's a 
world market.

>I'm just wondering, because Al Gore and Barbara Boxer, amoung others,
>says that if Prop 87 passes, California will be energy independent from
>

You might tell us what Prop 87 is.

>foreign oil producers.
>
>I wonder if this included Texas.  Or Canada? :-)
>
>So I'm wondering how close this is to being anywhere near the truth ...
>or does this more show that they never saw a tax they didn't like?
>
>If I had some feel for how much oil California produces, verses how
>much
>we import, it might give me a feel for how close we are to becoming
>energy independent
>anytime soon.
>
>I notice that every major newspaper in CA has come out against Prop 87,
>even the San Francisco Chronicle.
>
>And does this "independence from foreign oil" they speak of, factor in
>population growth
>and the therefore increase in energy requirements of California?
>
>Seems like that is always what they forget about in these little
>"energy independence"
>schemes of theirs: that California is growing by about 500,000 people
>every year.
>
Re: California Oil Production and Prop 87?
#722
Author: Christopher P. Winter
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:56
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On Thu, 12 Oct 06 09:40:34 GMT, lparker@emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:

>
>You might tell us what Prop 87 is.
>

    It aims to put a wellhead tax on oil production in California and use the
money raised (est. $4B) to develop alternative energy systems.

http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/vig_06/general_06/pdf/proposition_87/entire_prop87.pdf
Re: California Oil Production and Prop 87?
#723
Author: Jeff Strickland
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 01:29
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<jswatson@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1160603679.948882.9890@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> I'm curious to know how many barrels of oil does California take out of
> the earth every year?
> And what percentage of energy does that represnet in what California
> uses:
> 90%?, 95%, 99%?  Or more like 1%, 5%, 10%?
>
> I'm just wondering, because Al Gore and Barbara Boxer, amoung others,
> says that if Prop 87 passes, California will be energy independent from
>
> foreign oil producers.
>


In the grand scheme of things, Calif is no more dependent on foreign oil 
that the rest of the country.
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