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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09DAA.2FC1B900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NRA-ILA FAX ALERT=20 Vol. 8, No. 8 2/23/01=20 A GUN BAN GROUP BY ANY OTHER NAME IS STILL A GUN BAN GROUP Last week, we told you about a new anti-gun outfit operating under the = name Americans for Gun Safety. This week, we learned that Handgun = Control, Inc. (HCI), may be changing its name in what appears to be a = desperate attempt to improve its image with mainstream America. = According to the February 26 issue of Newsweek, the new name will = probably include a reference to Jim and Sarah Brady, who have been the = public faces of HCI since the late 1980s. HCI board members privately = voted for the name change because, according to insiders, some felt the = term "handgun control" was "too far to the political left." This will be = the second name change for HCI, which was first formed in 1974 as the = National Council to Control Handguns (NCCH).=20 Of course, regardless of what it is called, HCI will continue to be = nothing more than part of the gun ban lobby, although a recent press = release attempts to deny this fact. Taking umbrage with an NRA letter = that referred to HCI as a "gun ban lobby," HCI President Mike Barnes = took a page from the Bill Clinton play book on definitions, and wrote a = letter to Members of Congress to "clarify" the issue. Even though HCI is = clearly on record as supporting the 1994 ban on certain semi-automatic = firearms, and even though, in its original incarnation as NCCH, the = organization voiced a desire for an eventual handgun ban through gradual = steps, and even though HCI brags about its legal defense of the = Washington, D.C., and Morton Grove, Ill. handgun bans, Barnes implied = that, because "HCI does not seek to ban all (emphasis added) guns," it = should not be called a "gun ban lobby." According to that logic, we = shouldn't label someone a criminal unless he commits every crime, as = opposed to just some crimes. Sorry, Mike, but as long as your = organization continues to support banning many types and classes of = guns, it is, by definition, a "gun ban lobby." Or are you also confused = with what the meaning of "is" is?=20 SUPREME COURT CHOOSES NOT TO HEAR CALIFORNIA GUN BAN CASE On February 20, the U.S. Supreme Court decided not to hear an = NRA-supported challenge to California's ban on so-called assault = weapons. While somewhat disappointing, the decision is hardly = precedent-setting, as the Court normally chooses to hear only = approximately one out of 100 cases it is asked to consider. NRA will = continue to challenge the California ban, both in whole and in part, and = press forward with other cases that have been filed. For a copy of an = update on several legal challenges to a number of California's draconian = laws regulating firearms, please call the Grassroots Division at (800) = 392-8683, or visit NRAILA.org.=20 NRA v. ASHCROFT Don't be alarmed by the name of this lawsuit, as this litigation is just = the latest incarnation of NRA v. Reno-NRA's suit against the = government's illegal retention of records of lawful gun purchasers who = underwent a NICS check. As the new Attorney General, John Ashcroft's = name simply replaced that of his predecessor. At issue is whether the = government's retention of lawful gun purchasers under NICS can be = retained in what the FBI deems an "audit log." Section 103(I) of the = Brady Act clearly provides that no federal agency may (1) "require that = any record" generated by NICS "be recorded at or transferred to a = facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States," or (2) use = NICS "to establish any system for the registration of firearms, firearm = owners, or firearm transactions," except of ineligible persons.=20 Additionally, 18 U.S.C. 922(t)(2), spells out that, if a person may = lawfully receive a firearm, NICS shall assign a unique number, provide = the number to the dealer, and "destroy all records of the system with = respect to the call" (other than the number and the date) and "all = records of the system relating to the person or the transfer." The = petition to have the case heard by the U.S. Supreme Court was filed = yesterday.=20 "FIX" FOR THE "NOT SO FREE" STATE'S BALLISTIC FINGERPRINTING SCHEME? A temporary "fix" has been approved to alleviate one problem caused by = Maryland's "ballistic fingerprinting" requirement-a law that went into = effect last October and has amounted to a de facto ban on the sale of = new handguns in the state. The new law requires all handgun = manufacturers to fire every handgun intended for sale in Maryland, and = forward the shell casings to the State Police. Gun makers who are not = equipped to comply with the law have not been able to supply Maryland's = gun dealers with their handguns since October 1, 2000, causing the = supply available to law-abiding citizens to dry up. The = quick-fix-orchestrated by the primary architect of the "ballistic = fingerprinting" requirement, Maryland's Speaker of the House Casper = Taylor, Jr. (D-Allegany)-will allow Maryland's gun dealers to sell = "non-fingerprinted" handguns if they take them to the State Police, who = will fire them and collect the shell casings. A fee of $20.00 will be = charged for each handgun-a cost that will be passed on to the consumer. = In effect, this "solution" replaces a de facto ban with a de facto tax = on all handguns. The new system is not expected to be in place for = another 60 days, and will operate for only six months. While NRA is = encouraged to see the "de facto ban" problem being addressed, our = ultimate goal remains the repeal of this onerous law. Please contact = your State Delegate and urge him to support HB 185-Delegate Kevin = Kelly's (D-Allegany) legislation to repeal Maryland's "ballistic = fingerprinting" requirement. In addition, March 1, is the date set for = hearings on legislation that seeks to tax all ammunition purchases. Make = plans to attend the hearings and express your opposition to HB 1125. The = hearings will be held on Tuesday, March 1, at 1:00 p.m., by the House of = Delegates Ways and Means Committee, in Room 110 of the State Capitol. = Also be sure to call your State Delegate and urge him to oppose HB 1125. = You can reach your State Delegate by calling (410) 841-3000. For those = on the Internet, you can find contact information for your lawmakers by = going to NRAILA.org, and using the "Write Your Reps" tool.=20 A LOOK AT THE STATES INDIANA=20 Earlier this week, HB 1143, which would protect firearms manufacturers = from frivolous, politically-motivated lawsuits aimed at bankrupting = them, passed the House Agriculture Committee. The full House is expected = to consider HB 1143 as early as this Monday, February 26. Also, on = Monday, the House may consider HB 1138, which would hold adults = criminally responsible when a minor gains access to a firearm and = injures or kills another person. Contact your State Representative at = (800) 382-9841 for Republican Members, or (800) 382-9842 for Democratic = Members, and urge them to support HB 1143 and oppose HB 1138. For those = on the Internet, you can find additional contact information for your = lawmakers by using the "Write Your Reps" tool at www.NRAILA.org.=20 KANSAS=20 The Senate Judiciary still has not considered SB 116, which would = protect firearms manufacturers from frivolous, politically-motivated = lawsuits aimed at bankrupting them, and SB 117, which would protect = Kansas' shooting ranges against nuisance and noise ordinances aimed at = shutting them down. Contact Committee members and Chairman John Vratil = (R-11) and urge them to consider and support these bills. For a list of = committee members, please contact NRA-ILA Grassroots.=20 NEBRASKA=20 The Judiciary Committee still has not voted on LB 496, NRA-backed Right = to Carry legislation. Contact your Senator at (402) 471-2271 in support = of LB 496.=20 NEW HAMPSHIRE=20 HB 505, which would protect firearms manufacturers from frivolous, = politically-motivated lawsuits aimed at bankrupting them, is set to be = considered by the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, February 21. = Contact members of the committee and urge them to support HB 505. For a = list of committee members' names and phone numbers, please call NRA-ILA = Grassroots.=20 NEW MEXICO=20 This week, the New Mexico State House defeated HB 396, an NRA-opposed = bill that would have ended firearms sales between private, non-licensed = individuals at gun shows. Also, on Monday, February 26, the Senate = Judiciary Committee will consider SB 148, NRA-backed Right to Carry = legislation. Contact committee members at (505) 986-4500 and urge them = to support SB 148. For a list of committee members, contact NRA-ILA = Grassroots Division.=20 RHODE ISLAND Rep. David Cicilline (D-4) introduced H 5580, a sweeping, = 21 page anti-gun bill that could be considered by the House Judiciary = Committee on Tuesday, February 27. H 5580 would give local law = enforcement the authority to arbitrarily deny your right to purchase a = firearm, require ballistics testing on all firearms before they can be = sold in the state, and reduce the duration of concealed carry permits = from four years to one year. H 5580 would also set up central = registration of all firearms and require every firearm sold in Rhode = Island to be fitted with a trigger lock. Contact members of the House = Judiciary Committee and urge them to vote "NO" on H 5580. For a list of = members' names and phone numbers, please call NRA-ILA Grassroots.=20 UTAH=20 Earlier this week, the Utah House Judiciary Committee passed HB 376 S3, = which would grant out-of-state "Right to Carry" permit holders the = ability to carry their firearms concealed for personal protection in = Utah. Contact your State Representative at (801) 538-1029 and urge them = to support HB 376 S3.=20 VIRGINIA=20 HB 1969, which seeks to reinforce the state's firearms preemption law = against a patchwork of local firearms restrictions, will be heard before = the full Senate on Monday, February 26. In recent years, some of = Virginia's more anti-gun localities have been crafting gun-control laws = in ways to get around the existing law. HB 1969 would put an end to this = practice and restore the much-needed state uniformity. Contact your = State Senator at (804) 698-7410 and urge him to support HB 1969.=20 WASHINGTON=20 Next week, the House is expected to vote on HB 1121, NRA-opposed = legislation that mandates how an individual's firearms should be stored, = thus rendering them useless for self-defense. Contact your State = Representative at (360) 786-7573 and urge him to oppose HB 1121.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Having difficulty finding ILA-related info? Try our FAQ Sheet=20 NRAILA.org is maintained for the NRA by=20 Mainstream Electronic Information Services=20 Homepage established 1994 by the NRA Institute for Legislative Action=20 11250 Waples Mill Road, Fairfax, VA 22030=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09DAA.2FC1B900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> <CENTER> <H2>NRA-ILA FAX ALERT </H2> <H3></CENTER>Vol. 8, No. 8 2/23/01 </H3><B> <CENTER>A GUN BAN GROUP BY ANY OTHER NAME<BR>IS STILL A GUN BAN=20 GROUP</B></CENTER> <P>Last week, we told you about a new anti-gun outfit operating under = the name=20 <B>Americans for Gun Safety</B>. This week, we learned that <B>Handgun = Control,=20 Inc.</B> (HCI), may be changing its name in what appears to be a = desperate=20 attempt to improve its image with mainstream America. According to the = February=20 26 issue of <I><B>Newsweek</B></I>, the new name will probably include a = reference to <B>Jim</B> and <B>Sarah Brady</B>, who have been the public = faces=20 of HCI since the late 1980s. HCI board members privately voted for the = name=20 change because, according to insiders, some felt the term "handgun = control" was=20 "too far to the political left." This will be the second name change for = HCI,=20 which was first formed in 1974 as the <B>National Council to Control=20 Handguns</B> (NCCH).=20 <P>Of course, regardless of what it is called, HCI will continue to be = nothing=20 more than part of the gun ban lobby, although a recent press release = attempts to=20 deny this fact. Taking umbrage with an NRA letter that referred to HCI = as a "gun=20 ban lobby," <B>HCI President Mike Barnes</B> took a page from the = <B>Bill=20 Clinton</B> play book on definitions, and wrote a letter to Members of = Congress=20 to "clarify" the issue. Even though HCI is clearly on record as = supporting the=20 1994 <I><U>ban</I></U> on certain semi-automatic firearms, and even = though, in=20 its original incarnation as NCCH, the organization voiced a desire for = an=20 eventual handgun <I><U>ban</I></U> through gradual steps, and even = though HCI=20 brags about its legal defense of the <B>Washington, D.C.</B>, and = <B>Morton=20 Grove, Ill</B>. handgun <I><U>bans</I></U>, Barnes implied that, because = "HCI=20 does not seek to ban <I><U>all</I></U> (emphasis added) guns," it should = not be=20 called a "gun ban lobby." According to that logic, we shouldn't label = someone a=20 criminal unless he commits every crime, as opposed to just some crimes. = Sorry,=20 Mike, but as long as your organization continues to support banning many = types=20 and classes of guns, it is, by definition, a "gun ban lobby." Or are you = also=20 confused with what the meaning of "is" is?=20 <P><B> <CENTER>SUPREME COURT CHOOSES<BR>NOT TO HEAR CALIFORNIA GUN BAN=20 CASE</CENTER></B> <P>On February 20, the <B>U.S. Supreme Court</B> decided not to hear an=20 NRA-supported challenge to <B>California's</B> ban on so-called assault = weapons.=20 While somewhat disappointing, the decision is hardly precedent-setting, = as the=20 Court normally chooses to hear only approximately one out of 100 cases = it is=20 asked to consider. NRA will continue to challenge the California ban, = both in=20 whole and in part, and press forward with other cases that have been = filed.=20 <I><U>For a copy of an update on several legal challenges to a number of = California's draconian laws regulating firearms, please call the = Grassroots=20 Division at (800) 392-8683, or visit NRAILA.org.</I></U>=20 <P><B> <CENTER>NRA v. ASHCROFT</B></CENTER> <P>Don't be alarmed by the name of this lawsuit, as this litigation is = just the=20 latest incarnation of <B>NRA v. Reno</B>—NRA's suit against the = government's=20 illegal retention of records of lawful gun purchasers who underwent a=20 <B>NICS</B> check. As the new Attorney General, <B>John Ashcroft's</B> = name=20 simply replaced that of his predecessor. At issue is whether the = government's=20 retention of lawful gun purchasers under NICS can be retained in what = the=20 <B>FBI</B> deems an "audit log." Section 103(I) of the <B>Brady Act</B> = clearly=20 provides that no federal agency may (1) "require that any record" = generated by=20 NICS "be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or = controlled=20 by the United States," or (2) use NICS "to establish any system for the=20 registration of firearms, firearm owners, or firearm transactions," = except of=20 ineligible persons.=20 <P>Additionally, 18 U.S.C. 922(t)(2), spells out that, if a person may = lawfully=20 receive a firearm, NICS shall assign a unique number, provide the number = to the=20 dealer, and "destroy all records of the system with respect to the call" = (other=20 than the number and the date) and "all records of the system relating to = the=20 person or the transfer." The petition to have the case heard by the U.S. = Supreme=20 Court was filed yesterday.=20 <P><B> <CENTER>"FIX" FOR THE "NOT SO FREE" STATE'S<BR>BALLISTIC FINGERPRINTING=20 SCHEME?</B></CENTER> <P>A temporary "fix" has been approved to alleviate one problem caused = by=20 <B>Maryland's</B> "ballistic fingerprinting" requirement—a law = that went into=20 effect last October and has amounted to a de facto ban on the sale of = new=20 handguns in the state. The new law requires all handgun manufacturers to = fire=20 every handgun intended for sale in Maryland, and forward the shell = casings to=20 the <B>State Police</B>. Gun makers who are not equipped to comply with = the law=20 have not been able to supply Maryland's gun dealers with their handguns = since=20 October 1, 2000, causing the supply available to law-abiding citizens to = dry up.=20 The quick-fix—orchestrated by the primary architect of the = "ballistic=20 fingerprinting" requirement, Maryland's <B>Speaker of the House Casper = Taylor,=20 Jr.</B> (D-Allegany)—will allow Maryland's gun dealers to sell=20 "non-fingerprinted" handguns if they take them to the State Police, who = will=20 fire them and collect the shell casings. A fee of $20.00 will be charged = for=20 each handgun—a cost that will be passed on to the consumer. In = effect, this=20 "solution" replaces a de facto ban with a de facto tax on all handguns. = The new=20 system is not expected to be in place for another 60 days, and will = operate for=20 only six months. While NRA is encouraged to see the "de facto ban" = problem being=20 addressed, our ultimate goal remains the repeal of this onerous law.=20 <I><U>Please contact your State Delegate and urge him to support <B>HB=20 185</B>—<B>Delegate Kevin Kelly's</B> (D-Allegany) legislation to = repeal=20 Maryland's "ballistic fingerprinting" requirement.</I></U> In addition, = <B>March=20 1</B>, is the date set for hearings on legislation that seeks to tax all = ammunition purchases. <I><U>Make plans to attend the hearings and = express your=20 opposition to <B>HB 1125</B>. The hearings will be held on <B>Tuesday, = March=20 1</B>, at <B>1:00 p.m.</B>, by the <B>House of Delegates Ways and Means=20 Committee</B>, in <B>Room 110</B> of the <B>State Capitol</B>. Also be = sure to=20 call your State Delegate and urge him to oppose HB 1125. You can reach = your=20 State Delegate by calling (410) 841-3000. For those on the Internet, you = can=20 find contact information for your lawmakers by going to NRAILA.org, and = using=20 the "Write Your Reps" tool.</I></U>=20 <P> <CENTER><B>A LOOK AT THE STATES</CENTER></B> <P><B>INDIANA</B>=20 <P>Earlier this week, <B>HB 1143</B>, which would protect firearms = manufacturers=20 from frivolous, politically-motivated lawsuits aimed at bankrupting = them, passed=20 the <B>House Agriculture Committee</B>. The full House is expected to = consider=20 HB 1143 as early as this <B>Monday, February 26</B>. Also, on Monday, = the House=20 may consider <B>HB 1138</B>, which would hold adults criminally = responsible when=20 a minor gains access to a firearm and injures or kills another person.=20 <I><U>Contact your State Representative at (800) 382-9841 for Republican = Members, or (800) 382-9842 for Democratic Members, and urge them to = support HB=20 1143 and oppose HB 1138. For those on the Internet, you can find = additional=20 contact information for your lawmakers by using the "Write Your Reps" = tool at=20 www.NRAILA.org.</I></U>=20 <P><B>KANSAS</B>=20 <P>The Senate Judiciary still has not considered <B>SB 116</B>, which = would=20 protect firearms manufacturers from frivolous, politically-motivated = lawsuits=20 aimed at bankrupting them, and <B>SB 117</B>, which would protect = Kansas'=20 shooting ranges against nuisance and noise ordinances aimed at shutting = them=20 down. <U><I>Contact Committee members and <B>Chairman John Vratil</B> = (R-11) and=20 urge them to consider and support these bills. For a list of committee = members,=20 please contact NRA-ILA Grassroots.</U></I>=20 <P><B>NEBRASKA</B>=20 <P>The Judiciary Committee still has not voted on <B>LB 496</B>, = NRA-backed=20 Right to Carry legislation. <I><U>Contact your Senator at (402) 471-2271 = in=20 support of LB 496</I></U>.=20 <P><B>NEW HAMPSHIRE</B> <B> <P>HB 505</B>, which would protect firearms manufacturers from = frivolous,=20 politically-motivated lawsuits aimed at bankrupting them, is set to be=20 considered by the House Judiciary Committee on <B>Wednesday, February = 21</B>.=20 <I><U>Contact members of the committee and urge them to support HB 505. = For a=20 list of committee members' names and phone numbers, please call NRA-ILA=20 Grassroots.</I></U>=20 <P><B>NEW MEXICO</B>=20 <P>This week, the New Mexico State House defeated <B>HB 396</B>, an = NRA-opposed=20 bill that would have ended firearms sales between private, non-licensed=20 individuals at gun shows. Also, on <B>Monday, February 26</B>, the = Senate=20 Judiciary Committee will consider <B>SB 148</B>, NRA-backed Right to = Carry=20 legislation. <I><U>Contact committee members at (505) 986-4500 and urge = them to=20 support SB 148. For a list of committee members, contact NRA-ILA = Grassroots=20 Division.</I></U>=20 <P><B>RHODE ISLAND</B> <B>Rep. David Cicilline</B> (D-4) introduced <B>H = 5580</B>, a sweeping, 21 page anti-gun bill that could be considered by = the=20 <B>House Judiciary Committee</B> on <B>Tuesday, February 27</B>. H 5580 = would=20 give local law enforcement the authority to arbitrarily deny your right = to=20 purchase a firearm, require ballistics testing on all firearms before = they can=20 be sold in the state, and reduce the duration of concealed carry permits = from=20 four years to one year. H 5580 would also set up central registration of = all=20 firearms and require every firearm sold in Rhode Island to be fitted = with a=20 trigger lock. <I><U>Contact members of the House Judiciary Committee and = urge=20 them to vote "NO" on H 5580. For a list of members' names and phone = numbers,=20 please call NRA-ILA Grassroots.</I></U>=20 <P><B>UTAH</B>=20 <P>Earlier this week, the <B>Utah House Judiciary Committee</B> passed = <B>HB 376=20 S3</B>, which would grant out-of-state "Right to Carry" permit holders = the=20 ability to carry their firearms concealed for personal protection in = Utah.=20 <I><U>Contact your State Representative at (801) 538-1029 and urge them = to=20 support HB 376 S3.</I></U>=20 <P><B>VIRGINIA</B>=20 <P><B>HB 1969</B>, which seeks to reinforce the state's firearms = preemption law=20 against a patchwork of local firearms restrictions, will be heard before = the=20 full Senate on <B>Monday, February 26</B>. In recent years, some of = Virginia's=20 more anti-gun localities have been crafting gun-control laws in ways to = get=20 around the existing law. HB 1969 would put an end to this practice and = restore=20 the much-needed state uniformity. <I><U>Contact your State Senator at = (804)=20 698-7410 and urge him to support HB 1969.</I></U>=20 <P><B>WASHINGTON</B>=20 <P>Next week, the House is expected to vote on <B>HB 1121</B>, = NRA-opposed=20 legislation that mandates how an individual's firearms should be stored, = thus=20 rendering them useless for self-defense. <I><U>Contact your State = Representative=20 at (360) 786-7573 and urge him to oppose HB 1121.</I></U>=20 <HR noShade> <CENTER> <P><FONT size=3D-2>Having difficulty finding ILA-related info? Try our = <A=20 href=3D"http://www.nraila.org/show.cgi?page=3D/grassroots/19990813-Genera= lInfo-015.html">FAQ=20 Sheet</A>=20 <P>NRAILA.org is maintained for the NRA by <BR></FONT><A=20 href=3D"http://www.mainstream.net/"><FONT size=3D-2>Mainstream = Electronic=20 Information Services </FONT></A><FONT size=3D-2> <P><FONT size=3D-2>Homepage established 1994 by the NRA Institute for = Legislative=20 Action <BR>11250 Waples Mill Road, Fairfax, VA 22030 </FONT></P> <P> </P></CENTER></FONT></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09DAA.2FC1B900--
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10a039,39135afa6b1f27a,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10a039,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-02-23 15:08:04 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Neil At Hollywood�.Hom" <replyfromyou@spam.email.com> Newsgroups: ca.firearms Subject: NRA-ILA FAX ALERT - Vol. 8, No. 8 2/23/01 Lines: 538 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09DAA.2FC1B900" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: <C2Cl6.3926$L04.445353@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:07:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.244.21.249 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 982969634 216.244.21.249 (Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:07:14 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:07:14 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net