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Article #223Re: California's Opportunity to Achieve Improved Flood Control
From: tom menten
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 00:00
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Warren J. Paul (wjpaul@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : The low ag water rates that you seem to think are some sort of evil : ripoff are in fact and in effect a food price subsidy for the U.S. ... : The taxpayers of the U.S., through their duly elected representatives, : have chosen to make this subsidy, and be repid with low food prices. .. : Congress. BTW, I have always felt that Bill Bradley's interest and : interference in California water policy was always based more on his : political need to help the traditional New Jersey truck farmers to : compete with California than on any real concern. The duly elected representatives make a noble choice for the good of the US and the world in one case (when they support water storage?) and in the other case it is interference in California water policy. It is probably human nature to welcome a freebie from the federal government and object to resulting government involvement as interference. But Warren, Your expertise is civil engineering, yes? Tell us about the long term costs, in updated dollars, for a typical dam you've studied. I understand that they usually silt in after many decades and then lose their water storage and flood control capacity. True or myth? What is the cost to deal with silt? Do you think the costs are well understood and are recovered in net benefits? Do you think it is economic to build and retrofit dams that allow downstream fish passage? (That's an issue for us in the Northwest.)
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