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navydiver wrote:

> I would like to start a new newsgroup with the title
> can.rec.motorcycles.hondashadow

Hrmmm...  I would strongly recommend you not start out by limitting
discussion to Honda Shadows.  Would it not be acceptable to you to
have can.rec.motorcycles?  If that group gets too crowded for viable
discussion, there might then be a reason to split off one or more
subgroups.

> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
> unmoderated group ott.hondashadow.owners

Hrmmm... are you looking for a can.* group or an ott.* group?

> This newsgroup will be devoted to the users of Honda Shadow motorcyclyes
> either in Canada (preferable) or the Ottawa area (desirable).

If you create the group in can.*, you'll definitely not want to limit
the discussion to the Ottawa area.

> Standard language for the group is English. However, one can post
> messages in other languages for specific groups if the topic line is
> clearly labeled with the language, f.i. [Francais], [Espanol], etc.

Wow...  I've never seen such a convention in use, actually ...

In the interest of not alienating fellow Canadians, who may not be
Anglophone, could the above simply not read:

  Standard language for the group is English. Although posts in other
  languages are acceptable, it would be preferable to have the language
  clearly identified in the Subject header of the message.

> END CHARTER.

I like your proposal, except for the points I've already brought up:

1. I'd prefer to see a broad "can.rec.motorcycles" group created first,
   and if there becomes a need to split the group into more specific
   groups, we could examine that possibility later.

2. I have a slight reservation about asking people to jump through any
   hoops just to post in a language of their choice.  I would propose
   that there be no sense of language restriction, other than perhaps to
   state that the group is usually posted to in English (though other
   languages are acceptable).  If someone posts a message in French (or
   Spanish, etc.) and gets no answer, they'll very likely try again in
   English anyway.

3. It's not quite clear to me whether you're really after a can.* group
   or an ott.* group.

> ...  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days
> (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to
> news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may
> be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.
> Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

This procedure does not apply to can.config.  Please read the frequent
posting entitled "Welcome to can.config -- one man's opinion".  There is
no voting that takes place in can.config, only an attempt to reach
consensus about creation of a group, and a desire to see some real
interest in the group under discussion.

> This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
> ott.config
> alt.motorcycle.honda.nighthawk
> ott.motorcycle

I've crossposted my followup to these groups, with further followups
directed to can.config.

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Sylvain Robitaille                              syl@alcor.concordia.ca
 
Systems analyst / Newsmaster                      Concordia University
Instructional & Information Technology        Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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