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Navydiver
02 750 Shadow ACE
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"Sylvain Robitaille" <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote in message
news:slrnbfve54.2o0.syl@alcor.concordia.ca...
> navydiver wrote:
>
> > I would like to start a new newsgroup with the title
> > can.rec.motorcycles.hondashadow
>
> Hrmmm...  I would strongly recommend you not start out by limitting
> discussion to Honda Shadows.  Would it not be acceptable to you to
> have can.rec.motorcycles?  If that group gets too crowded for viable
> discussion, there might then be a reason to split off one or more
> subgroups.

AGREE can.rec.motorcycles is sensible enough

>
> > REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
> > unmoderated group ott.hondashadow.owners
>
> Hrmmm... are you looking for a can.* group or an ott.* group?

HAVE GIVEN UP ON ott.* as I want this to go beyon the Ottawa area - ott.*
already has a thriving motorcycle group
>
> > This newsgroup will be devoted to the users of Honda Shadow motorcyclyes
> > either in Canada (preferable) or the Ottawa area (desirable).
>
> If you create the group in can.*, you'll definitely not want to limit
> the discussion to the Ottawa area.
>
AGREE

> > Standard language for the group is English. However, one can post
> > messages in other languages for specific groups if the topic line is
> > clearly labeled with the language, f.i. [Francais], [Espanol], etc.
>
> Wow...  I've never seen such a convention in use, actually ...

STOLE THIS FROM ANOTHER CHARTER (I AM ASHAMED) _ HAPPY WITH ENGLISH
>
> In the interest of not alienating fellow Canadians, who may not be
> Anglophone, could the above simply not read:
>
>   Standard language for the group is English. Although posts in other
>   languages are acceptable, it would be preferable to have the language
>   clearly identified in the Subject header of the message.
>
PERFECT

> > END CHARTER.
>
> I like your proposal, except for the points I've already brought up:
>
> 1. I'd prefer to see a broad "can.rec.motorcycles" group created first,
>    and if there becomes a need to split the group into more specific
>    groups, we could examine that possibility later.
>
> 2. I have a slight reservation about asking people to jump through any
>    hoops just to post in a language of their choice.  I would propose
>    that there be no sense of language restriction, other than perhaps to
>    state that the group is usually posted to in English (though other
>    languages are acceptable).  If someone posts a message in French (or
>    Spanish, etc.) and gets no answer, they'll very likely try again in
>    English anyway.
>
> 3. It's not quite clear to me whether you're really after a can.* group
>    or an ott.* group.
>
> > ...  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days
> > (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to
> > news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may
> > be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.
> > Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.
>
> This procedure does not apply to can.config.  Please read the frequent
> posting entitled "Welcome to can.config -- one man's opinion".  There is
> no voting that takes place in can.config, only an attempt to reach
> consensus about creation of a group, and a desire to see some real
> interest in the group under discussion.
>
> > This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
> > ott.config
> > alt.motorcycle.honda.nighthawk
> > ott.motorcycle
>
> I've crossposted my followup to these groups, with further followups
> directed to can.config.
>
> -- 
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> Sylvain Robitaille                              syl@alcor.concordia.ca
>
> Systems analyst / Newsmaster                      Concordia University
> Instructional & Information Technology        Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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