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Re: The Blameless Society

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From: ZsaZsa
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:54
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"Carter Lee" <crlee@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3AAD6598.8533CCF6@ns.sympatico.ca...
> ZsaZsa wrote:
> > "John Smith" <fatjohnny72@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:6Z5r6.217$q46.14964784@news1.tor.primus.ca...
> > > AlexF@cc1.bhc5.org wrote in message ...
> >
> > > >    If the customer had one too many, no.  But if the
> > > >bartender saw that the customer was clearly drunk out
> > > >of his mind, and yet served him another drink anyway,
> > > >just because he wanted to make an extra buck, then
> > > >yes, if I get hit by that drunk driver you can bet
> > > >I'm suing both the drunk and the bar.
> > >
> > > How absurd.  Bartenders shouldn't be under any obligation to define
and
> > > enforce consumption limits on their customers.  They sell a fully
legal
> > > product to people who request it and can stop requesting it at any
time.
> > > The consequences of this exchange rest with the buyer.  End of story.
> >
> > On the contrary, in Ontario people who serve booze, and those who sell
it in
> > retail establishments , are required to deny service to people who are
> > obviously drunk.
>
> Cut the crap.

Touchy, touchy.  Are you a drunk Carter.

>That rule was created to appease the blameless society.


Well, no.  It has always been there. Created to appease blue-blooded
Presbyterian WASPS in old Ontario.

> It should never have been enacted.  How much you drink or what you do
> after you drink it is not the responsibility of anyone but yourself.

That is why there are no rules about getting as drunk as you want in your
own dwelling or other non-public place.
>
>   The license holder of an establishment can lose his/her
> > liquor license for "permitting drunkeness", that is allowing drunks to
> > remain in said establishment.
>
> So a bartender in Sudbury should toss a drunk out in sub zero weather so
> he can freeze to death?  That is about the most archaic law left in
> Canadian jurisprudence.

What are you saying?  That bartenders in Sudbury should let drunks stay
after closing time if it's cold outside?

>   This is as much to protect other patrons and
> > the public as the drunk.
>
> Protect the other patrons from what?  Protect the drunk from what?

Do you support public drunkeness Carter?
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