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Article #38476Re: The Blameless Society
From: ZsaZsa
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:55
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:55
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"Gerry Carter" <gerrycarter@home.com> wrote in message news:Wafr6.22878$p66.7967158@news3.rdc1.on.home.com... > > "ZsaZsa" <reply@ng.org> wrote in message > news:fwar6.21370$p66.7342285@news3.rdc1.on.home.com... > > > > "John Smith" <fatjohnny72@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:6Z5r6.217$q46.14964784@news1.tor.primus.ca... > > > > > > AlexF@cc1.bhc5.org wrote in message ... > > > > > > If the customer had one too many, no. But if the > > > >bartender saw that the customer was clearly drunk out > > > >of his mind, and yet served him another drink anyway, > > > >just because he wanted to make an extra buck, then > > > >yes, if I get hit by that drunk driver you can bet > > > >I'm suing both the drunk and the bar. > > > > > > How absurd. Bartenders shouldn't be under any obligation to define and > > > enforce consumption limits on their customers. They sell a fully legal > > > product to people who request it and can stop requesting it at any time. > > > The consequences of this exchange rest with the buyer. End of story. > > > > On the contrary, in Ontario people who serve booze, and those who sell it > in > > retail establishments , are required to deny service to people who are > > obviously drunk. The license holder of an establishment can lose his/her > > liquor license for "permitting drunkeness", that is allowing drunks to > > remain in said establishment. This is as much to protect other patrons > > and the public as the drunk. > > By the time someone is obviously drunk, they are already to drunk to drive > etc. How does allowing them to get more drunk remove from them the personal > responsibility for their own inebriation? I'm afraid I don't understand the question.
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